That's beautiful

Sf, with these on her home page we should get some traffic. :)
These all look great.
I've already added the first one on her page (the one Leo sent me) and it looks good.

But the site set-up is going slow due to me having a problem understanding things.
My brain feels like mush and the simplest thing seems soooo hard...sigh.

You are not alone BE, Leo spent the whole Good Friday in front of his computer, cursing and mumbling like always. Strange enough this cursing-and-programming thing is what he calls "fun".

I was able to let the shoulder of that dress slip a bit more with just 20 more frames for the simulation. While doing the promos I was amazed how much variety we have already, I am not even able to use all the morphs and add-ons we have so far in just three images.

And now I'll start the large render with the dress and get some sleep! I am not far away from staying 24 hours awake - and, Fabi reminded me on it, there is a long Easter weekend waiting for me, no time to be tired

Quote - Shaved and unshaved, I'll have to check that one and see about updating for the new Toni. :)

Hmm, they must have been for Antonia 114, I don't have her now, maybe they weren't even your textures but I swear there were some textures done for her that had that option.

Can anyone else shed any light on this?

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Quote - Here's the next promo for the Freebie-site. Is it okay with the gang?

Very nice indeed!

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Quote - I will - I constrained the belt and bow what worked fine but did not even have a look into the neckline. So this will "go gold" during the night.

And here's the last one. Too risky? Hopefully not! Somehow I like how this came out, with the asian morph,  the Glynis-body and a hat Toni looks like a posh japanese performance artist :laugh: That's why I added the black swirl in the background.

That's a nice morph, very good looking. I like the different kind of nose, it looks very realistic.

Yeah, that's a great render!

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I really love that last promo!

Nice, very Nefertiti.

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Here's an EXTREMELY handy morph for those creating head morphs (and don't want to change the eyelashes). Lashes Gone. It pushes the lashes back into the middle of the head. It's in obj format. I'm not sure if anyone's done this, but in case they haven't, here it is ;o).

Turn it on to do your eye morphs and then turn it off when you're done :o)

The morph is on my website on the Morphs page - link in my signature :o).

Laurie

Thats a great Nefertiti, Sazzy

OK, I know the new hands have been up for a while, and I'm a slack bastard for not looking at them sooner. Personally I prefer the old hands, the old fingers have a very slightly knobbly look that seems more realistic to me.

I think there are some places where the fingers could be improved. When the fingers are together there seems to be too much space between them, particularly the first bones of the index and mid finger. Over all I would like to see less white space visible between the fingers when they are touching. Perhaps it is a little late in the proceedings to be saying this, but I doubt there are many hand/finger morphs, or other hand/finger content yet, so I don't think a change here is likely to put anyone's nose out of joint (except mine, because I did some hand poses).

Also, where the first joint of the little finger meets the hand does not look quite right to me.

Just my two cents worth. Feel free to ignore the above if you disagree.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - The lips looking strange thing is partially a mapping and texture thing. The lip material zone on the uv maps goes a bit into the philtrum area and those particular textures go up into that area. If you compare them to SaintFox's textures, you'll see what I mean. Hers don't go up into that area and thus don't look the same. I'm working on a number of lipsticks  and I've avoided going that far up on the UV map because at certain angles it just looks "off".

Awww hell! I see what you mean!
Well... give me a little time and I'll fix that:P

Thanks for the heads up, Rogerbee!

As long as you avoid those top 2 polygons on the lip UV map, you'll be fine. :)

I really can't thank you enough for this tip, Sazzy! Repairs are in progress :)

My feedback based on the posted pics:

The index finger is at an angle..it should be straightened, and then most likely, the middle finger will probably need to be moved closer to it.

The thumb 3rd section looks too short to my eye.. and it's nail also looks very short to me.

The best hands I've seen are Girl 1's hands.. I always use them as a reference when I'm working on hands on other figures.
Maybe look at them for ideas on improvements?

If you've never rigged hands before, the easiest way to rig them is to start with the finger mesh  spread out, rig that, and then zero pose memorize them together.

Something I talked to someone else about at one point, was actually having 2 hand sections, with the fingers and thumbs coming off those two. That would at allow a more realistic hand pose option, however it defy's poser usual hand use, and poses.

Nice one Cyberscape, can't wait to see them, other than the lips you did a cracking job.

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Antonia's hands look like mine! They both look good to me, I'm mainly concerned with how well they can pose and how well they can grip props.

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Quote - Here's an EXTREMELY handy morph for those creating head morphs (and don't want to change the eyelashes). Lashes Gone. It pushes the lashes back into the middle of the head. It's in obj format. I'm not sure if anyone's done this, but in case they haven't, here it is ;o).

Turn it on to do your eye morphs and then turn it off when you're done :o)

The morph is on my website on the Morphs page - link in my signature :o).

Laurie

Thanks! Very handy indeed :D

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - The lips looking strange thing is partially a mapping and texture thing. The lip material zone on the uv maps goes a bit into the philtrum area and those particular textures go up into that area. If you compare them to SaintFox's textures, you'll see what I mean. Hers don't go up into that area and thus don't look the same. I'm working on a number of lipsticks  and I've avoided going that far up on the UV map because at certain angles it just looks "off".

Awww hell! I see what you mean!
Well... give me a little time and I'll fix that:P

Thanks for the heads up, Rogerbee!

As long as you avoid those top 2 polygons on the lip UV map, you'll be fine. :)

I really can't thank you enough for this tip, Sazzy! Repairs are in progress :)

You're welcome :D

I have to express my appreciation to this community. I don't say thank you for each new freebie, nor comment on each new render, but my appreciation is there nonetheless.
And so I want to thank everyone for their input and expertise and freebies, you're such a generous and talented bunch!
And I really have to thank those of you who leave kind comments on the freebies and renders I do, it is very much appreciated. :D

Quote - ...Thanks! Very handy indeed :D...

You're welcome :o). Was a big deal early on for those of us that like to play with morphs. I figured out how to group just the lashes and push 'em back with the morph tool ;o). I'm gonna use it a lot...lol.

Laurie

Late to the party as usual.

I dropped Antonia into Modo last night and came up with a head morph. Will show a render a bit later when another animation is finished rendering.

I must say she is easy to work with. Modo hates V4 but works extremely well with Antonia.

Will keep this thread BM.

Something to keep in mind when thinking of the finger length.
news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/695000/images/_695142_hands2_300.gif

A big thank you to both Rogerbee for finding the flaw and to Sazzyazzca for the tip on how to fix it!!

Good job with that morph, Sazzy!!

NOTE: Any future d/l of the Antonia Collection will include the new textures :)

NOTE(mostly to myself): Any textures made for the other maps will need to have a statement in the readme to load the "oldUV" Antonia character set.

@LesBently...thank you for that great pose file.
I loaded it and then my GramTia face morph, made a new morph obj and got the pz2 for that set working good. :)
Gonna post an image here of the new adjusted face morph.

Now I'm going to just sit and play around with my older sets to see what needs fixing for the free site when we got it online.

I had to go out shopping and I am soooo tired.

Have a good day tomorrow and enjoy the  Easter doings, folks. :biggrin:

Quote - Something to keep in mind when thinking of the finger length.
news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/695000/images/_695142_hands2_300.gif

Many, many thanks to everyone who had a critical look at the hands! It's always extremely useful to get some fresh opinions that force me to re-examine what I've done. Even if I don't agree with the conclusions in every case, there's usually something worth considering in every honest critique.

It's funny you should bring up that image. I was not aware of this particular difference between male and female hands, but I was going to mention how I often use my own body as a first reference, and how (in this respect, at the very least) I am fortunate enough to have relatively feminine hands for an old dude. As a matter of fact, it turns out that my ring and index fingers are about the same length. If anything, my index finger may be a bit longer. :laugh:

Quote - The index finger is at an angle..it should be straightened, and then most likely, the middle finger will probably need to be moved closer to it.

I don't think that's correct, unless I'm a deformed freak. If I put my fingers together like on the picture lesbentley posted, my index finger is actually at an angle. It doesn't look that way at first sight because the area between the index finger and the bone is quite fleshy, but the other three fingers are the straight ones, and the index finger bends towards them. I seem to remember actually seeing that slight bend on some women's hands, as women tend to have less fleshy palms. But I'll try to hunt down some references to be sure.

Quote - The thumb 3rd section looks too short to my eye.. and it's nail also looks very short to me.

I think that may be due to foreshortening. If you find time, have a look at the actual mesh. I would post an image with the thumb in the same plane as the other fingers, but I'm about to update the OS on my one and only private computer, so I might be m.i.a. for some time.

Quote - Over all I would like to see less white space visible between the fingers when they are touching.

Excellent point!

Regarding your comment on the old vs. new shape: I don't think a woman's hand should be as knobby as Antonia's original one. I'm an oldish dude whose joints are beginning to act up, and even my finger's aren't as knobby. But I agree that it's important to accentuate the knuckles somehow without having them stick out too much. I tried to take that into account by widening the tops of the knuckle areas, but for people who like their knuckles to be more pronounced, it would be easy to add a morph. I also agree that there needs to be a little bit of crookedness in fingers to make them look real.

Like I said before, time to hunt down some references...

If I can manage to make a nice displacement map for the wrinkles, she'll be wonderfully gruesome ;o)...lol.

Laurie

That's a great looking witch, Laurie!

Laurie,

The witch morph looks wonderful.  

And while waiting and watching I am about to finish the other promos and did a little surprise for the start page.

awwwww babies!  Gratz!

I've been busy too, on the GranTia morph.
Knowing that most folks prefer an INJ to just a pmd dial, I worked it out.
Now there is an INJ and REM pz2 instead of a dial setting. [

](http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&lpver=3&ref=10)

Here is an image of the edited morph and now I'm going to bed.

That's pretty cool. Love the pose. What's more, she looks almost decent in that outfit.

("Follow" with a double-l, by the way. )

Quote - And it's fixed!! The new lip textures are available here:
http://www.sharecg.com/v/40616/Poser/Texure-fix-for-TheAntoniaCollection

A big thank you to both Rogerbee for finding the flaw and to Sazzyazzca for the tip on how to fix it!!

Good job with that morph, Sazzy!!

NOTE: Any future d/l of the Antonia Collection will include the new textures :)

Only too happy to help. Once Antonia has her Morphs++ style morphs in place I'll really go to town.

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Quote - I'm just popping in to show the reason why we're so quiet here - the first little "easteregg" arrived - so far we are not sure if there will be more of them but we prefer to stay awake just for the case...

And while waiting and watching I am about to finish the other promos and did a little surprise for the start page.

Bless!

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Quote - Awww, cute baby.

I've been busy too, on the GranTia morph.
Knowing that most folks prefer an INJ to just a pmd dial, I worked it out.
Now there is an INJ and REM pz2 instead of a dial setting. [

](http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&lpver=3&ref=10)

Here is an image of the edited morph and now I'm going to bed.

Grantonia, nice!

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Quote - @Rogerbee1...I found the textures you referred to, shaven and unshaven.
I need to fix the pz2 files for two of the head textures that go with it, they don't load.
Then get it ready for the site (when the site is ready for it...lol) with some promo shots.

Cool, I must have deleted 114 when I got 118. As for your older Antonia she'll look like that by the time Daz have worked out how to get V5.5 to move as well as she does!

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Quote - My witch morph is coming along nicely (but the lips are giving me a fit ;o)).

If I can manage to make a nice displacement map for the wrinkles, she'll be wonderfully gruesome ;o)...lol.

Laurie

There's no rush, Halloween is months away!

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And thanks for the good wishes for the little furry one. So far and after almost 7 hours it's still only one.

Looks good,

Sounds like you've got a long day ahead though.

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We had a long day and night - it's noon now and it looks as if we can take the cat-basket with mommy and baby to the sleeping room (to keep away the nosy rest of the gang who stands already in a row to play with the baby - and they are scaring the mommy to death) - and the we'll have some sleep as well.

Seems unusual to just have the one kitten, maybe that'll change.

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Quote - Seems unusual to just have the one kitten, maybe that'll change.

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Depends. Sometimes a first time cat mommy or a very young cat will have only one or two ;o).

Laurie

SF, I love that image with the text!

SaintFox,

Congratulations on the new addition to the family! 

Have you named the kitten yet?

The promo pictures look great!

Depends. Sometimes a first time cat mommy or a very young cat will have only one or two ;o).

Our mothercat was only 11 months old when she got her first kittens, after the first one was born we had to wait the whole night before the other two came, who surprisingly appeared to be an identical twin.
I went to bed after the first one because I had to work the other day, but my wife and my daughters stayed up all night. So indeed, it can take a long time. They were all born on the first of april, 11 years ago now.

Sorry for the OT, but that happens when cats come in.

BTW, Good work with the Antonia wiki-site! When I have time I try to make something for Antonia. I'm working on a skull-cap for dynamic hair, but I haven't had the time to finish it..

Best regards,

Bopper.

Both of my cats have the same mother (different litters) and each time she had only two kittens. Their mother was a very, very small cat too, so maybe that may have something to do with it. I know age definitely does...the first litter she had she was not even quite 8 months old  yet ;o).

Laurie

We'll see!

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