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Subject: Is this a Poser Remder style?


Burpee ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 12:24 PM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 2:47 AM

Aery Soul's promos have an illustrative look to them.  Is this a style of render in Poser?  If not, how can this look be achieved?  Thanks.

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hborre ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 12:38 PM

Don't know if there was any postwork performed, but it definitely is a poser render where the character is concerned.  Go to www.aerysoul.com, there are tutorials available for lighting your scene and characters.


IsaoShi ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 2:56 PM · edited Mon, 13 July 2009 at 3:01 PM

I would think that they render the character and clothing in Poser (no postwork - it says so on the product page) and then superimpose those renders onto the artistic backgrounds for the promo pics.

I would just add that there is no easy way to make renders like theirs, and no easy way to learn this craft. If that is your goal, there is only one way to achieve it - lots of study and practice.

In the course of which you will undoubtedly develop your own unique style!

(edit) PS: what you see there is not 'Poser style', it is 'Aery Soul style'. Poser is just the tool they used to do the renders.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


aeilkema ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 3:34 PM

Why do certain poser users still sell us the fairytale of lot's of study and practice to create certain renders? It's not that way at all and most of us know it. This is called poser..... it's all about finding the right resources.

Of course..... you can be stubborn enough to try and do it yourself and spent ages at doing so, but chances are that someone already has done it for you and you either need to find the right tutorial, resource or spent a little money to get the results you want.

As for your own unique style..... just browse through the galleries and you'll soon see that finding an unique style will be hard, since everyone is using what everyone else is using.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

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Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk


pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 3:47 PM

That isn't really true, because until you know what sucks and what's good, you don't know what to buy.  It takes a long time to really learn what sucks.  It takes a lot longer than that to learn what's good.

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IsaoShi ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 3:49 PM · edited Mon, 13 July 2009 at 3:50 PM

aeilkema...

So, you just get the resources, plug them in, and 'make art'?
No, I don't. Nor do most people who use Poser.

It's not true to say that everybody is using what everybody else is using. What makes the difference is imagination, not content. If that's the way you want to work, that's fine, but don't presume that everyone works that way.

Who is telling fairytales? Not I.

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


aeilkema ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 4:04 PM · edited Mon, 13 July 2009 at 4:07 PM

Quote - So, you just get the resources, plug them in, and 'make art'?
No, I don't. Nor do most people who use Poser.

Of course they do, how else would all these stores survive and why would they operate in such a small market? Most people use poser, because it is poser and has a huge content driven concept behind it. Content is not only clothes and such, there are numerous render/light helps available. If most people were doing what you say they do, then products like renderstudio, dreamlights lightset and lightworks wouldn't be selling too well. Yet they do sell, like hotcakes and you can see in the galleries that a lot of people are using them.

I know, we all love to proclaim that most people around here did all the work themselves, but it's obvious that we all love the make art buttons that poser and the merchants provide for us.

Yes I do get the resources, plug them in and make art. I may tweak a little once in a while, but that minimum, that's what most people using poser do. If you know how to use poser and the resources available then you can achieve some pretty amazing things. That's why I use poser. It gives me the results I want and gives them fast. I can focus on what I want to convey and not having to spent hours modeling, swetting up poses, lights and so on. That's simply why most users use poser. If that weren't the case, poser and d/s would soon be a memory of the past and the stores would close.

I'm not saying everyone does, but contrary to what you do believe, the majority does and that sure ain't no fairytale, because I don't think these numerous content stores and merchants (of which some only focus on light related products) are some fairytale.

I'm not sure which galleries you browse, but it's obvious that lot's and lot's of poser users have mastered the  technique of  "get the resources, plug them in, and 'make art' " as you call it. Now some may have mastered the art postwork better then others, but when it comes to poser users, the majority does get the resources, plug them in, and 'make art'!!!

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk


IsaoShi ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 4:42 PM

You always use such a lot of words to argue against things that nobody said!
Never mind... bye bye. :O)

"If I were a shadow, I know I wouldn't like to be half of what I should be."
Mr Otsuka, the old black tomcat in Kafka on the Shore (Haruki Murakami)


scanmead ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 7:22 PM

To answer Burpee's question:"Alice, poses, hair & Lights by Aery Soul. Background props by Aery Soul and DAZ3D. Rendered in Poser 7 and Poser Pro, no postwork except for composition." (on the very bottom of the page)

The style is a combination of AS' lighting, textures and render settings. You might want to try out some of the light sets to see how they're done.  


Burpee ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 7:36 PM · edited Mon, 13 July 2009 at 7:38 PM

I surely did not mean to start any controversy and am sorry if I did.

Since I started with DazStudio, I never learned to use my Poser6 that I won.  I only learned how to use it recently.  I did some promos and testing with it (I had to because the product would not work in D/S) and the merchants gave me settings for a good render.  It works great but is similar to most of my other programs in results (super fine/crisp render with soft shadowing).

I've always admired the cartoon-like/illustrative look of AerySoul's promos.  I think it may have something to do with shadows.  There seems to be very little and very soft....but it is there. The colors are vibrant and alive.    Might also be global lighting?  I will look at AerySoul's lights and see if they can help me to achieve something similar in look and feel.

Appreciate all responses.  Hborre, thanks for the link.


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Mon, 13 July 2009 at 11:51 PM

burp, IMVHO it takes time, skill, artistic talent and alotta acquisition of content to be able to duplicate said renders, hence learn what you can and also try rendering in an original style that pleases you.



lmckenzie ( ) posted Tue, 14 July 2009 at 6:42 AM

"I surely did not mean to start any controversy..." 

You didn't. It's one of those endless debates like art vs. pr0n that seem to have a bizarre fascination for people, despite having no possible resolution. Might as well argue Ginger vs. Mary Ann when the obviously correct answer is Mary Ann.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 14 July 2009 at 6:52 AM

Well that kind of depends on what you mean by "vs." doesn't it.  If it was naked Crisco wrestling I'd rather not see a decisive winner.

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scanmead ( ) posted Tue, 14 July 2009 at 8:41 AM

Burpee, if you like that render style, go for it! Ask questions here, ask at AS' site and have fun exploring.  Keep us posted on your progress, too, all right? Who knows what other people can learn from your journey. 


Burpee ( ) posted Tue, 14 July 2009 at 10:41 AM

I did read through the tutorials at AS.  Very fascinating though I didn't understand all I read.  They are using a light with IBL, a spectral light and a third special one, plus the correct shaders and similar rendering options to what I use.  I should be able to recreate similar effects with my Vue6I if I can't get it correct in Poser6, since I'm not very good with Poser.  Will just have to practice.


pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 14 July 2009 at 2:33 PM

"Spectral light" :huh:

Vue 6 Infinite should produce MUCH higher quality than current versions of Poser can produce, if you take time to learn its materials and rendering systems and/or make use of some of the good shading resources out there like Dave Burdick's stuff.

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scanmead ( ) posted Tue, 14 July 2009 at 7:45 PM

Keep in mind that AS' characters lend themselves to this render style. You're very brave to try translating from one render engine to another. That has to be one of the most demanding projects possible. On the other hand, I can make Cinema's AR look a whole lot like Bryce without meaning too! ;)  


Burpee ( ) posted Tue, 14 July 2009 at 9:55 PM

Well, I've gotten some pretty good Bryce renders :)


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