this comic is done in poser without anime studio but people have told me that anime studio could be helpful for me.  In these examples i've used olivier's art materials applied using shaderworks at runtimedna.

And then some postwork...

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you would need to render your 3d images as a pen and ink or toon pic to get this look. there is a tut here at rosity on how to do this, then the layout and word bubbles can be added in any paint program , i think there is even a free kit here in freestuff for the layouts.

aha - so that sort of look can be achieved in anime studio, where the original textures are incorporated. 

And is the pen and ink part of the rendering or is it a postwork filter?

How does transparency affect it eg hair and eyelashes?

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Hi your desire to keep "the look" of your original Bitmap/transmapped textures  in your comics is why they dont look very "tooned" IMHO they just appear to be Lightly  filtered  Standard poser4 renders
perhaps thats the look you are seeking though ,

Cheers

no actually it is not.  But something kind of close to this look.  Maybe a bit like the daz studio toon renders perhaps?

I did buy the akvis thing you mentioned on a post once, but close up that wasn't quite right for me either. Nice look though.

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You could try the demo of Anime Studio.  However, in typical SM fashion there is no login on the demo download page, it takes you to a new register page instead. So I did not bother with it.  I ended up buying Manga Studio from Amazon for $10 including shipping (!) during this holiday sale.

You'll probably like Manga Studio because I think you are quite artistic.

I found too much painting was involved with it, but I did like the tones and nice panels.

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Thanks Esther. Have you looked at Amazon's Anime Studio page. It goes into a lot of detail about the program. Seems like it's more suited to use it's characters though I have not tried that one.

Here's an example of a raw Poser render using the script. If at all interested, I'd be honored to share my settings with you.

Earl

that does look very nice, and I will be in touch!

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Her is a quick PZ3 import and render into AS. You can vary things with resizing and changing the line and shader work. Also transmaps work as well. But as you can see. It is more a real toon render look and not the photoshop filter look that your looking for.

It's quite nice too though looking at your render.  what would be the work flow for doing that? Is it something that certain settings in AS could be made and then import with a click and render with another or is there more to it than that.  Also I use a lot of HDRIs mapped to the free BB envirosphere dome in my scenes, do HDRIs render in AS?

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You don't need your HDRI's. I used one light to set up the quick figure and saved the Pz3. Then just imported the Pz3 into AS. I don't think you even need to save that light. I saved another without the light to test later.

You don't need to use the envirosphere. Your working in your own studio. You can add whatever background/ forground images/layers/scenes you want.

I did not adjust anything with that render. It was just the plain Pz3 import and render, which took 2 seconds, maybe 3. It did take a minute to import the file. But I do have a big multi runtime.

by hdri I mean I use them for scenes not lighting.  eg a city or something  can I map a spherical hdri in AS?

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AS is a proper 2D studio. You would compare it to ToonBoom but at half the price with the same features. Not counting thier version which is used for many of the cartoons and animations you see on TV. The price of that is so high that they don't even give a price except direct call with sales.

So no. You would use the background/import image or create a complete 3D scene using Pz3/.obj imports. You could fake it a bit with a curved prop/.obj with the image on that.

bevans84 I just looked up that D3D script and it is for mac as well as PC and it is on sale at the moment too.  Does it do toon lines as well, I can't quite tell from the promo pics or your render, or is it only toon shading and you added the lines some other way?  How are transmaps handled in it?

Is it quick and easy to use?

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Well I haven't got anime studio but from what you guys have all said it sounds like it is more of an animators tool and something for making really toony looking flat looking images, rather than my style of comic, but I may be wrong?

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bevans84 can you please show me how a whole scene might look?

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bevans84 how many clicks to toon a whole scene?

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Esther,
I have AS 7 Pro, and agree with Tashar in that, I'm not sure that's going to be what your looking for.

My render was standard poser, the lines were added by the script. You can also change the color or width of the lines, however the width will start smudging if you go too high in value. The script sets up the toon node in the material room (along with several other things) and doesn't interfere with transparancy or transmaps.
It also comes with pretty good documentation.

It's really hard to recommend something for toon renders, because it's so subjective. What looks good to me might not look good to you at all, or not be what you're looking for at all. It is fairly inexpensive, and I've gotten good use out of it.

Quote - bevans84 how many clicks to toon a whole scene?

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Three, if you have your preset stored :-)
Open the script, click "Whole Scene", and click "OK"

bevans84 I think I might just try it, as you say, it's not expensive. But could you please do one render of a whole scene for me?

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I added a couple figures from Daz Construction P5 and RDNA's Infinity cove with one of the Daz Environnment textures. Is this what you meant?

yes, perfect.

Can you tell me if the underlying texures of skin and clothes etc are opreserved or does the skin get replaced by some sort of generic toon skin?

Love es

Here's StoneMason's Back Alley.

that looks good. Brilliant!  Can the node tooning be easily switched off, say for the ground?

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Yes, if it has it's own material zone.

I think that I'll give it a try and see how I like it for quick and easy tooning.

Love esther

I bought the D3D script but probably no time to try it for the next 5/7

Good luck with the script, I've been using it for over a year now and like it quite a bit.

I briefly examined a free version of Anime Studio when they were giving it away. It seemed to be intended for the creation of vector-based animation.

Quote - I briefly examined a free version of Anime Studio when they were giving it away. It seemed to be intended for the creation of vector-based animation.

That's how it started, but it has 3D objects now and imports Poser scenes directly. It actually comes with 3D objects as well now - lots of posable animals. I only learned that last bit myself in the last 24 hours. I got AS Pro yesterday because I'm working on enhancements to the library GUI for it. The Poser and AS library windows are the same app now. Note that although I have AS now, I don't know how to use it. But I suppose I will over time. Too bad I have no interest whatsoever in tooning. grin

In the Poser 9 wishlist thread, Esther had suggested proper tooning in Poser. In that thread I pointed out that AS is the tooning app for Poser. In that thread I linked to a video demonstrating it.

Then she rightly posted this thread asking for more info about it.

AS is a full 2d animation studio. As I said earlier, it rivals Toonboom. AS used to be called MOHO and was featured and linked by ToonBoom site. It has since grown to a very good animation studio for both vector and traditional. Now object support as well at half the price as ToonBoom. I use both as I do a lot of 2D animation.

I'm not into tooning, but Poser compatibility is probably a good marketing decision.

bevans84, thanks so much for those settings which I'm sure will help enormousl. , I saw two apply buttons but I presume it's the apply button on the left part, so I'm rendering right now.

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and thanks very much BB for helping too and giving me some other ideas to think about (still considering AS too)

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bevans84, I surehope I'll be able to get the people to cast shadows.  didn't see any in that sample render of yours.

Trying to toon now, but not successfully as yet.  I tried your settings but I must be doing something wrong as the render just looks like a normal render.

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Are you checking "Whole Scene" in the bottom left corner?
Enabling shadows in the render settings and the lights should work.

I don't know if it makes a difference, but which version of Poser are you using?

Hi, I'm on poser pro 2010.  Yep I checked the box for the whole scene.

I've got it tooning now, and not bad and very very easy!  But I haven't got any tiny black lines, which I kind of thought there were on your render.  

so then I just tried checking the box on the right side of the screen I get black lines around the edges of my transmaps.

could you just recheck the settings you gave me and see if they really are the ones you wanted to recommend please.

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