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Subject: Spam


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 10:01 PM

that spammer's hit 3Dmax, Photoshop, Blender, C4D and Bryce.



Winterclaw ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 10:28 PM

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IO4 ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 12:36 AM · edited Mon, 15 August 2011 at 12:41 AM

Some spam posted here (by Windows 111) in a Bryce forum thread:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3830108&ebot_calc_page#message_3830108

 and here:

 http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3830100&ebot_calc_page#message_3830100

and another one:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3830057&ebot_calc_page#message_3830057

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spedler ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 3:21 AM

Aren't your programmers able to do something about these bots posting what must be hundreds of messages in one go? I would have thought that a simple flag could be set when a member posts more than say 100 messages a day, indicating that it's probably a spambot. At which point you could have it automatically block any further posts pending a check by a human.

As it is, this site appears to be remarkably vulnerable to these mass spam attacks.

Steve


ThunderStone ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 6:07 AM

Maybe they ought to consider changing the forum over to simple machine which has a good bot beater. But then again, it would mean that they would have to get rid of the blues.  On second thought, they could devise a mod to stop the bots from registering in the first place.


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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 7:03 AM

Quote -  

As it is, this site appears to be remarkably vulnerable to these mass spam attacks.

 

your kidding right?  lets see. how many spammers do you seein a week right now on this site.

now. take that number and look over the history of the site.

erm. ok.. thats 1 this week. over the history of the site... erm... less than 100? in 11 years...?

 

vunerable? far from it! this site is actually one of the best for NOT having spam.  I can show you sites that get 10-50 spambots a day attacking.. and they are not as high profile as RO is.



RHaseltine ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 8:46 AM · edited Mon, 15 August 2011 at 8:49 AM

Lots of posts by http://www.renderosity.com/homepage.php?Who=windows111 in the Photoshop forum, and in Carrara


spedler ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 9:06 AM

Quote - vunerable? far from it! this site is actually one of the best for NOT having spam.  I can show you sites that get 10-50 spambots a day attacking.. and they are not as high profile as RO is.

I don't dispute your figures, but I've never seen this on sites such as CG Talk, for example, and I'm there more frequently than here nowadays. Which doesn't mean it doesn't happen, just that I haven't seen it, and that's a pretty high profile site. Not on C4D Cafe either, probably the world's largest C4D site.

In any case I stand by my comment: while you can't prevent small-scale spamming, it should be possible to prevent these mass spams like the latest one, where it seems as if every forum may have been spammed, leading to a very large number of messages being posted in presumably a very short time. A simple count of posts-per-day with an automatic block would stop it before it got too far.

Steve


StaceyG ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 9:49 AM

Yes the programmer will remove all the forum/blog spam by this windows111. We are aware


Ravyns ( ) posted Thu, 18 August 2011 at 10:48 PM

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mairaj ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 12:59 AM

Attached Link: http://www.tutorialsworkshop.com

Thanks dude for telling me the truth regarding spam post


Lucie ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 9:24 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showforum.php?forum_id=12366

That's too funny!  A spammer posting in a thread that denounces spam!  lol  There's like 10-11 more spam post by mairaj in the photoshop forum this morning.  http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showforum.php?forum_id=12366

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FrankT ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 1:30 PM
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Yet more in the 3DS Max forum- by ffeillynngg

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2831883

also Meraij has been spamming the Max forum as well

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StaceyG ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 1:51 PM

Took care of those two and we will work on getting rid of the posts


wheatpenny ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 2:15 PM
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I'm deleting the posts as fast as I can.




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rebelmommy ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 6:48 PM

This one here

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wheatpenny ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 6:52 PM
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Got it (all 3 of his posts).




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rebelmommy ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 6:53 PM

Thanks!

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Lucie ( ) posted Fri, 19 August 2011 at 9:46 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2833970

And another one in the photoshop forum: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2833970  It seems like there's been a lot lately or is it just me?  

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wheatpenny ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 8:06 AM
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Got that one too.




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Lucie ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 8:08 AM

Thank you!  They're keeping you busy hey?  ;)

Lucie
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StaceyG ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 7:35 PM

Wheeew they wear us out. We are thinking through some things to combat this. 


Lucie ( ) posted Sat, 20 August 2011 at 9:37 PM

OMG!  I can imagine, I know they'd wear me out.  It seems they're getting sneakier all the time too, making it seem like their spam belongs and all, it's crazy.

Lucie
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wheatpenny ( ) posted Tue, 23 August 2011 at 6:16 AM
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Got it.  

Thanks for bringing these to our attention, guys.




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EnglishBob ( ) posted Tue, 23 August 2011 at 6:19 AM

Twelve minutes - that's fast. Kudos on your speedy spam-whacking. :-)

I hope the anti-spam measures that Stacey mentioned won't take too long to come into force.


StaceyG ( ) posted Tue, 23 August 2011 at 9:21 AM

Thanks guys for always giving us a head's up so quick.:)


Lucie ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 7:02 AM
wheatpenny ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 9:05 AM
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Got it.




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Hawkfyr ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 9:49 AM

I was wondering why the 3DSMax and PhotoShop forums seem to get hit the hardest and I came up with a possible reason.

This is just a theory but it seems like the spammers just start at the top of the forum list and work their way down(Alphabetical order)…So it would make sense that the “3DSMax” and “ADOBE PhotoShop” forums would always get hit.(They are first in the list)

Again…it’s just a theory.

Lol…perhaps a dummy forum should be created before the 3DSMax forum as a trap for the spammers…If something gets posted in there, it’s probably spam, and can be caught quickly…lol

Tom

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ThunderStone ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 11:54 AM

Hawkfyr, that would be a good idea except, the bots don't just stop there. They go after the whole schemaboard. What is needed is a way to stop the bots from registering or sending them into a loop til they can no longer post and move on; the later will impact the forum, the former will simply just keep them from posting and not impact the forum. Either way, I don't think the programmers' skillset are up to par for the task. If it were, then we won't be seeing these type of spams in the forums or blogs.


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OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 12:27 PM

Quote - I was wondering why the 3DSMax and PhotoShop forums seem to get hit the hardest and I came up with a possible reason.

This is just a theory but it seems like the spammers just start at the top of the forum list and work their way down(Alphabetical order)…So it would make sense that the “3DSMax” and “ADOBE PhotoShop” forums would always get hit.(They are first in the list)

Again…it’s just a theory.

combo of first on the list and keywords. they know that Max and Photoshop are popular, so the Bot will seek them out. other keywords are gallery, help forum, etc.



StaceyG ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 12:36 PM

The techs definitely have the "skillset" to combat this BUT things are put in a priority category and at the moment there is much ahead of this problem.  There are a few simple things that could be done immediately but I'm not in agreement with them because it would require all "real" members to take extra steps and I don't want to anything that would discourage real members from posting in the forums.


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 3:47 PM

simple one would be to require all new users to be limited to 5-10 posts then reviewed by a Mod.

then any spammer gets caught with minimum disruption

also you could link the sign up to one of the anti spambot services such as http://www.stopforumspam.com/ who would automatically weed out any known spambots...



StaceyG ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 4:05 PM

The first suggestion is what we did for sitemail kind of and that would be one way.


ThunderStone ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 4:16 PM

Here's one that looks like it's in the proper place but it's not and it's in this thread:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2831365

I suspect a spammer when it's only one post and it has key word in bold at the end.

Spambot must have been listening on the conversation in here... :lol:


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OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 


Lucie ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 4:39 PM

They're really sneaky, the ones that were posted by Mairaj also looked like they were in the right place and looked like it was possibly a legitimate member making it, only this "member" always made many posts on the same day in many different threads always with a link to the same website and only changing a few words in the accompanying comment. It's only after seeing a couple of those posts by the same member that you'd realize it was spam.

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Hawkfyr ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 6:13 PM

The dead givaway is the "Date Joined"...Rule of thumb...if it's today...it's spam.

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 6:45 PM

here we go

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2834297



wheatpenny ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 7:06 PM
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ThunderStone ( ) posted Fri, 26 August 2011 at 8:02 AM

Spam in 3D Max about a towel???? Here's the link Luxury Beach Towel


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OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

9/11/2001: Never forget...

Smiles are contagious... Pass it on!

Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 


wheatpenny ( ) posted Fri, 26 August 2011 at 8:07 AM
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Got it.




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FrankT ( ) posted Fri, 02 September 2011 at 1:29 PM
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More MAX spam

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2834732

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StaceyG ( ) posted Fri, 02 September 2011 at 1:35 PM

Got it thanks


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wheatpenny ( ) posted Sat, 03 September 2011 at 9:03 AM
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Got it.




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rebelmommy ( ) posted Sat, 03 September 2011 at 3:05 PM

And some HERE :(

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sat, 03 September 2011 at 3:44 PM

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2833463



wheatpenny ( ) posted Sat, 03 September 2011 at 3:53 PM
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Got both of those.




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Ravyns ( ) posted Tue, 06 September 2011 at 10:50 PM

 

Photoshop Forum

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2835138

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