Long Hair, Wavy, Right-Parted with the Balance Tossed Left.  Minimal, if any, guidehairs breaking surface of skin.

Service Pack 1 goes a long way towards improving the simulator, but you don't need it.  All you need to do is practice with the hair styling tools and trial-and-error the settings.  I've been at this for about a month now, but combined hours are probably 20 if you don't count rendering.  From being a clueless noob to hair room to this.

This is the hair I've always dreamed of having since Poser 4. 

This rendered in under 10 minutes without SSS or IDL.  Later on in the thread I'll post a SSS and IDL version. 

The only modifications I did to the render out of poser is to play with Gamma and color vibrance a bit.

This looks fantastic!

I wish, I had your patience... that's why I have used dynamic hair for grass only :))

Looks nice :).

Laurie

Nicely done.

cheers,
dr geep
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Thanks...was worried I was just hallucinating or something.   I'm not used to actually getting what I want out of Poser after all these years!

Nice one! Specular works on the curls quite nicely. It's just the top that seems off. Nice 300Euro french maroon hair color otherwise...;p

great.  Looking forward to seeing if long straight shiny silky hair is also possible.  If so then I might give it a try.

Love esther

actually that first example above is truly great!!!

now if you change her pose will the hair just naturally follow?

Here's a view from the back...can't declare total victory just yet.  Having no over-lapping hair groups in the back leads to pattern baldness.  This is a fairly easy fix, no worries.  As for the rest of the hair...lush and good, IMO.  For all the back-side rendering I do (Not much) I'm satisfied with it.

estherau - My very next step is going to be to pose her and dynamic the clothes and hair and see where it gets me lol.  Give me an hour or so.

This is really impressive, WtB... WOW. One more thing to spend time with. There just aren't enough hours in the day!

that could be the problem with the top?

I mean the breakup of specular. It seems helmut like on top there. The rest is broken up nicely.

You have a good thing going here ..

Quote - Looks nice :).

Laurie

Laurie - I found your brain cell, and you ain't having it back... just doubled my inventory with it! And I'll need it to do the hair room next - that is, if I ever get to it before the next version of Poser comes out. :biggrin:

The Breakdown:

There are five groups of hair parented to an invisible skullcap.  Each group will have it's own simulation.  Poser will drape automatically without adding frames, but since we are posing I have added 15 frames for everything to get into place.  Better results might be had by being more patient.

Poser is kind by beginning your simulation from the style you made, rather than resetting the hair.  It does not work the other way...if you sim first then try to add addtional style, it will reset the hair altogether.

The trick for me has been the left top stuff, getting Poser to realize that I want the hair on top of the head to stay pretty much in place, and then start hanging and simming from the top of the left side (almost as if there's a bobby pin there.)  Instead, poser immediatly uses it's gravity to pull the hair straight down over the face.

Why?  I set root stiffness to .333 and falloff to .444.  should keep the roots in place to almost halfway down the hair shaft.  I could be wrong.

Figured it out.  Root Stiffness is 0-100. Keep it fairly high, 80-95 is good, and the falloff is 0-1, so eyeball the length of your hair and figure out what percentage you want of the hair, from the root, to stay stiff.  I think that understanding these two settings will save everyone a lot of pain when running hair sims.  Afterall, you don't want too much going on above the ears, the real dynamics begin towards the middle (most of the time).

I am keeping gravity at  -.5, spring strength 0, air damping .05, spring damping .05, bend resistance 0, position force 0.  I'm working on the clothes now, so I'll have a render up of what Poser did in a few.

Wow! That looks awesome!  Very excellent!

With Magnets instead and some scenery and better cloth sim

Attached Link: Gallery Image, wanted to maintain some size

 Fantastic work William. Other than the baldness- the rear render looked almost real.

Quote - With Magnets instead and some scenery and better cloth sim

...looks really nice.

More experimentation shows that "Gravity" setting will affect how much poke through you end up with.  IN other words, you can have such strong gravity that it will over-ride the collision detection.  Not good.

that's disappointing news indeed.

Shorter style with no Kink, only Wave Deformation.

that is how my hair used to look  after I took out my plaits (braids)

Love esther