On the left- Genesis female- on right V4-WM (weight mapped). To my eye- the pectoral area looks distorted with Genesis.  Both could use JCM correction with the elbows-more so Genesis. The poses are for the correct figure- the Basic Female Poses-for Genesis are the same positions as the "General Poses" for V4

Ssssshhhhh.........

You know that you aren't supposed to point out that 'one size fits all'.......doesn't.

:P 

Just subscribed and waiting for fireworks! :lol: 

The TriAx weight mapping has been roughly converted to something Poser's WM can handle, the attached pic is a quicky in DS4.5, it uses the same morph, MAT and pose as yours, but the shape and bends are different.

And if V4-WM was the creation of the Poser Place collaboration, she has extra rigging bones along with a new rigging.  Not a fair comparison.

Just checked on both the Mac and PC and I don't see the distortion. Also you're comparing apples and oranges as well. I'm guessing the pose was intentionally changed from V4 because hands going through weight-mapped hair is going to cause a bit of havoc in DS4 if smoothing is turned on. Notice the hand positions look like they would be placed on top of hair, not through it.

Probably in the future, you may want to just ask "Is anyone having this issue", rather than saying it's wrong, as I think something is borked with your genesis.

I'll give it a shot and let ya know if I'm, seeing it.

Laurie

Which version are you using Eric and MaleMedia?

Laurie

I updated to the latest exporter and still have the same thing. That's unfortunate. I even deleted everything in the DSON cache too.

I probably should say that, all in all, it still looks better than Vicky 4's default (not talking V4VM). It could look better tho.

Laurie

I'm using the latest version of the exporter.

For my two cents if the V4 figure in Eric's pic above is V4WM, I think her arm pits look much worse.

Laurie

What I am seeing from you- and Male looks better than what I see. I could download the appropriate files and re-install. Supposedly nothing has changed in them though.

I am using the latest DSON importer btw-refreshed my download and installed yesterday.

Quote - Yep, I am getting it too. I'm using the very first version of the exporter. It doesn't matter if I load the basic female from the first, or if I load Genesis and apply the basic female morph in the properties panel. Same thing :) FWIW, I DID apply the Genesis version of that pose ;).

Which version are you using Eric and MaleMedia?

Laurie

Hmm...I dunno what to tell ya :(. I can say that putting clothes on Genny just now crashed Poser. And it didn't do that before on the first importer. Oh well...probably user error ;).

I hope ya get it fixed :(

Laurie

Evidently Genesis was "borked." I reinstalled-with the following results. Not bad. Certainly the pectorals are not bowed out-like they were.

Should I request the thread be deleted or locked since the premise is incorrect?

 Thanks Laurie-

I did! What clothing? I have much of the Gen+Poser clothing-I can try it myself.

I did notice that in an earlier render-when I turned limits on for my V4 character- V5 vanished-and I could not find her!

Quote - Hmm...I dunno what to tell ya :(. I can say that putting clothes on Genny just now crashed Poser. And it didn't do that before on the first importer. Oh well...probably user error ;).

I hope ya get it fixed :(

Laurie

Turns out my Genesis character was compromised in some way-reinstall fixed it.

Quote - Ssssshhhhh.........

 

You know that you aren't supposed to point out that 'one size fits all'.......doesn't.

:P 

The boots are a bit "puffy" at the feet, but I can live with it ;).

I've decided she needs more hair and clothes...lol.

Laurie

I'm liking Mairy's Marja Hair. The Charger Horse is from 2002 btw. Daz recently updated the installer-and I installed it.

Quote - It was the Journeyer Scout clothing. LOL. I got it all going in the right direction. Apparently it didn't like drag and drop. Haha.

The boots are a bit "puffy" at the feet, but I can live with it ;).

I've decided she needs more hair and clothes...lol.

Laurie

Quote - Laurie- I'm leaning towards "something is borked with (your) my Genesis." Your renders looks much better than what I am seeing- here is V5 (using the Genesis poses Basic Female #1), V4 and V4-WM with V4 General pose 1

What I am seeing from you- and Male looks better than what I see. I could download the appropriate files and re-install. Supposedly nothing has changed in them though.

I am using the latest DSON importer btw-refreshed my download and installed yesterday.

Quote - Yep, I am getting it too. I'm using the very first version of the exporter. It doesn't matter if I load the basic female from the first, or if I load Genesis and apply the basic female morph in the properties panel. Same thing :) FWIW, I DID apply the Genesis version of that pose ;).

Which version are you using Eric and MaleMedia?

Laurie

it would be interesting to see a r/l woman in that pose line up. as a photo reference.

Sorry Misty

I checked- I don't have an r/l woman in my runtime!

Do you know any?

Quote - > Quote -  

it would be interesting to see a r/l woman in that pose line up. as a photo reference.

i thought about making a r/l photo reference , until i saw myself in the mirror .  not sure i wanna risk breaking my camera lense. lol

abducting joints science. 

the collar bone would never twist?  it moves up/down. i don't think it moves back. a lil bit of front movement - makes the collarbones show more pronounced under skin.

oh, just remembered i have Cindy Crawford workout dvd.  may have some reference points in it.

HAHA! I would similarly be afraid of causing camera damage. :-) Let me know what you find.

Quote - i thought about making a r/l photo reference , until i saw myself in the mirror .  not sure i wanna risk breaking my camera lense. lol

abducting joints science. 

the collar bone would never twist?  it moves up/down. i don't think it moves back. a lil bit of front movement - makes the collarbones show more pronounced under skin.

oh, just remembered i have Cindy Crawford workout dvd.  may have some reference points in it.

Quote - Sorry Misty

I checked- I don't have an r/l woman in my runtime!

Do you know any?

Always. I just look in the mirror. For r/l man, I just look at spouse.

If you don't have a r/l woman to look at, maybe you need to put Poser away and get out a bit more. :P (Unless you're not into women, that is -- which is, of course, a perfectly fine way to live. I'm not all that into them, after all.)