Quote - I haven't heard anything about Adobe being close to bankrupt. Where ya getting ur info?

Adobe is doing quite well, with net income up nearly 30% over 2011...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-13/adobe-revenue-profit-top-estimates-on-software-demand.html

Quote - > Quote - I haven't heard anything about Adobe being close to bankrupt. Where ya getting ur info?

Adobe is doing quite well, with net income up nearly 30% over 2011...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-13/adobe-revenue-profit-top-estimates-on-software-demand.html

So I read. An 8% chance of bankruptcy and the fact that the price of their shares were at the highest ever just this month....they ain't going anywhere anytime soon. LOL I just love misinformation ;).

You would think so many downloads would imply that if their prices were more reasonable many more people would buy their software and possibly upgrade when the new versions come along.  they have great software but I think they charge too much, particularly not enough discounts to loyal customers who have paid big bucks for previous versions.

Love esther

Like in the movies, a drug lord floods the city streets with free samples to hook the victums in and have them coming back for more.

This if from a non-Adobe site which says that it is a quote from Adobe's forum. I can't get the latter to load so don't take it as gospel. There is a Terri Stone listed as the online community mgr. for CS. 

"Quote :
Terri Stone:

I don't think you have to worry about Adobe coming after you for this, union_bug.

As soon as our execs have approved an official statement on this issue, I or another Adobe staffer will post it here."

Of course, at best, this is her guess - and she apparently wasn't in Panama :-) No idea what union_bug is, unless its a synonym for cluster f__k. Or database union error which might explain why they published the software links when all they should have posted was the serials for current owners.  

Er, union_bug isn't a synonym for anything. It's the username of someone who posted in the Adobe forums asking for clarification as to whether folks who'd already downloaded & installed this thing in good faith would get in trouble if the maybe-free CS2 is officially announced as Definitely Not Free by those with the authority to do so.

You're correct Byrdie, I read that also... still no official word though.

oh excrement,

I downloaded part of the cs2 set today from an open download page with serial numbers that I got to by searching adobe site for free cs2.

Now I read this forum and wonder wut ?

I have Photoshop elements 3 which does what I need (and can cope with) so I have just lost several hours of time using my libraries wifi link. 

headdesk

"Er, union_bug isn't a synonym for anything. It's the username of someone who posted in the Adobe forums"

Ah, perhaps that should have been obvious but, not being able to see the context of the Adobe, forum post, and missed the comma. As someone said, commas are important as in 'Let's eat grandpa' or the infamous line about helping your Uncle Jack dismount from an equine.

I still like my synonym better :-)

...OK. Adobe still hasn't shut this down. CS2 is free no questions asked.

The End.

Yeah, it's unbelievable.

Okay, it was a mistake on their part...

... but the download links are still up to products that do not require activation.

... with serial numbers.

... and they are accessable without even signing in with your adobe ID.

.<

And their own EULA works against them here because: The downloads are from adobe (check).  The serials are from adobe (check).

So they are unable to obscure the serials?  Or only give them to those that own the original products?  Really confusing what is going on here.

Here's a an apple tree.  Don't pick or eat the apples but we'll leave the gate open for you.  scratching head

Adobe is going to either:

a. issue a statement saying "yes its free "

b. issue a statement saying "its a mistake, its not free , delete it unless you own cs2"

c. ignore the whole thing and never mention it again.

popcorn

for me A is great B or C means delete

might just delete anyhow if they dont make there minds up soon

gimp has done me well for a long time (and they NEVER had one eye on me wallet lol)

I'm leaning toward options a. and c.

if they were going to say "its a mistake, its not free , delete it unless you own cs2" they would have taken some kind of action to contain the damage... Instead they completely disabled any kind of regulation of the downloads.

I'm really perplexed why there seems to be all of this "noble" hemming and hawing.

It serves no purpose in the face of the obvious (and that's my socially polite way of putting it).

Ps. I've used Gimp when I didn't have PS for a little bit. Gimp simply is NOT in the same league as Photoshop.

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Ps. I've used Gimp when I didn't have PS for a little bit. Gimp simply is NOT in the same league as Photoshop.

I do agree with you that it's not the same, but it really does a good job, and it's free!

(Just waiting to download this or not... *goes back in lurk mode)

Quote - Adobe is going to either:

a. issue a statement saying "yes its free "

b. issue a statement saying "its a mistake, its not free , delete it unless you own cs2"

c. ignore the whole thing and never mention it again.

 

popcorn

I think Adobe has said all they are going to say. Vague, yes. But all they're gonna say. The fact that they put the page of downloads and serials back up AFTER issueing their vague statement is telling.

Laurie

....Or they have format changes in the works that will block off use of CS2 or earlier products from more than basic function.....

Plus how many out there are really going to stay satisfied with decade old tech?

And yes, I have the parts of the suite I hadn't bought before.... 8D And if they prove useful, will be considering getting the current version. But in the meantime...PARTY...!!! 

I've had Photoshop 7 all these years. Worked just fine for what I needed it for ;). Now I have two versions newer. I'm satisfied with old tech. LOL.

As for blocking off CS2 from functions, how can they? These versions don't call home. That was the whole point of them.

If I had the funds, I'd definitely be getting the newest version. And when I do, I will. But until then, this version will do nicely ;).

Laurie

Disclaimer
I do not use hacker versions.
I do not have Max.
I do not have Adobe.

Adobe ,Max knows there newest versions are on hackers web sites.
Don't know why they would even worry about CS2.

I still use Photoshop 6!  

Like LaurieA said, it's worked fine for my needs for a long time.  Admittedly, I had been looking into making an investment in the latest version of Photoshop, but I would still have had to wait for funds for that step.

I still use Corel PhotoPaint 8 for most things and it’s closer to two decade old technology. Many of these programs have been churning out new versions for years. IMO, a lot of that has been more creative marketing than adding to or improving the core features that most people use. That’s not to say that they don’t add neat stuff, but I often see maybe one ‘kinda neat’ feature in a long list of yawns. I think one reason they only give you a good discount on upgrading from the last version is that a lot of people would go years before the cumulative changes justified an upgrade. Basically, the only other way they can goose people is by changing the format of things like filters and actions - that, or Apple/Microsoft do it for them. In this case, Windows users are apparently better off.

IANAL so I’ll wait for a few real hammerheads and great whites to opine in the tech press on the legal stuff. As for the ethics (as opposed to the law), for the moment, Adobe has said that you’re not supposed to have this – their incredibly obtuse actions not withstanding. I don’t see the value in mocking anyone with ethical doubts - without regard to what my personal take might be. In fact, I will think less of Adobe, from a broad ethical standpoint, if they say nothing. It would be kind of a chickens__t way to do things in my view.

What OS Do you run Corel Photopaint 8 on ?

 "What OS Do you run Corel Photopaint 8 on ?"

 XP. A quick search shows problems with Win 7 and a possible fix - may work for 8 too YMMV.

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"After the crash, I found a mention of MFC42 by looking at the System Event Log. (Windows-7 is reluctant to tell you the error messages directly.)

I dug up a pre-Windows-7/Vista version of MFC42.DLL from another app on my computer, copied it into the same folder as the Corel executable, and voila, Photo-Paint now works. Yay"

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PP is fast. stable and does most everything I need and I'm too hooked on the interface to have patience with anything else. The only drawback is that it doesn't support many PhotoShop filters and no actions. I can use some filters in my graphics viewer (XNview).  PS-CS2 might be nice for the occasional technique I see without having to try to translate to PP. Still, I'd probably get Premier first :-)

I see that poor Terri is working overtime trying to keep the Adobe forums from turning into RendoWars. I wonder if this flap will do aything to Corel's stock price, since they probably own a big chunk of of the poor man's PhotoShop market with PP and PSP. Even an old version of PP might cut into their sales, IF Adobe stops trying to say that they did it but they didn't inhale.