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Subject: Standart and Extended License


megaionstorm ( ) posted Tue, 19 August 2014 at 4:11 PM · edited Mon, 27 January 2025 at 3:52 AM

Why must i pay a 400% - 500% higher price for an extended license item as for a standart license item ?

When i want to render a driving car in poser then i can use the standart license product.

When i want the same car drive in unity3d then i must use the extended license item.

For me are both uses are the same thing !!!

When i want to use the poser item in unity3d then i must pay a 400% to 500% higher price for a poser item who isn't unity3d polygon optimized and textured !
Then the only difference is the license.

 


jestmart ( ) posted Tue, 19 August 2014 at 4:35 PM

You need an extended license if you are using the models in a game where you need to redistribute the models.


megaionstorm ( ) posted Tue, 19 August 2014 at 7:15 PM

Quote - You need an extended license if you are using the models in a game where you need to redistribute the models.

Is unity3d from this included or excluded ?


icprncss2 ( ) posted Tue, 19 August 2014 at 10:00 PM

If you upgrade to the Game Dev edition you can then optimize the car for Unity.  In essence, you are buying the rights to use the mesh in your game.

Standard license is limited to 2D renders and 2d animations.  Those where neither the texture or the mesh can be extracted. 


AmbientShade ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 1:43 AM

Quote -
If you upgrade to the Game Dev edition you can then optimize the car for Unity.  In essence, you are buying the rights to use the mesh in your game.

Standard license is limited to 2D renders and 2d animations.  Those where neither the texture or the mesh can be extracted. 

I think this is misleading. Using Poser Game Dev version does not license just any content to be used in Unity. That could onlyapply to the content that comes with game dev. So if this car model is part of Poser's included stock content, in the game dev version, then ok. Anything else, you would have to ask the legal owner of the content you're using what the license restrictions are. Chances are pretty good that that license fee will be higher, but every content artist has their own rules and restrictions on whether their poser content is allowed to be used in game engines. Just because you are using the game dev version of Poser does not change that. 

 

 

 



megaionstorm ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 4:58 AM · edited Wed, 20 August 2014 at 4:59 AM

I think there is a need for a third type of license, then the extended license makes no difference between freeware games and commercial games.

The actual extended license could be a good solution if the game is a commkercial game and should be sold for $100.- each item.

But ... but there are freeware game programmers.

If think they must have there own license type, with a price not higher as the doubble from the standart license price !!!


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 8:26 AM

Quote - I think there is a need for a third type of license, then the extended license makes no difference between freeware games and commercial games.

The actual extended license could be a good solution if the game is a commkercial game and should be sold for $100.- each item.

But ... but there are freeware game programmers.

If think they must have there own license type, with a price not higher as the doubble from the standart license price !!!

 

Freeware programmers already have 2 options available to them:

1.  Use the models included and licensed in the Poser Game Dev package

2.  Make your own models


megaionstorm ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 8:38 AM · edited Wed, 20 August 2014 at 8:44 AM
  1. Lower license prices makes the chance higher that they are use YOUR 3d models in their freeware programms and CREDITS YOU AND YOUR WORK.
    The first two options makes not more money for yourself !

There are a lot online stores who have different licenses for freeware (non commercial use) and commercial programmers.


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 9:37 AM

Quote - 3. Lower license prices makes the chance higher that they are use YOUR 3d models in their freeware programms and CREDITS YOU AND YOUR WORK.
The first two options makes not more money for yourself !

There are a lot online stores who have different licenses for freeware (non commercial use) and commercial programmers.

Perhaps you don't understand that vendors already can't police the theft of their models.  Vendor will get no assistance from the brokerages nor SM in finding and stopping outright theft of their work. 

If a vendor chooses to charge more for opening their products to even MORE theft, by including the models in your game, then you should be pleased that they are even making the offer.

Just because YOU choose freeware doesn't mean a vendor wants to participate in that business model.

Do you know what your CREDITS do?  They put up a giant sign pointing thieves right to your products.  No thanks.

 


megaionstorm ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 10:06 AM · edited Wed, 20 August 2014 at 10:09 AM

"Just because YOU choose freeware doesn't mean a vendor wants to participate in that business model."

If think the vendor has given his agreement at the moment he had decide to sell his product with the extended license !


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 10:12 AM

Quote - "Just because YOU choose freeware doesn't mean a vendor wants to participate in that business model."

If think the vendor has given his agreement at the moment he had decide to sell his product with the extended license !

Yet, here you are complaining about it.

Beside the fact that you are completely incorrect, you'll need to find the spot in the Game Dev license agreement, with each piece licensed as Game Dev, saying freeware is covered as well.


megaionstorm ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 10:19 AM · edited Wed, 20 August 2014 at 10:33 AM

"If think the vendor has given his agreement at the moment he had decide to sell his product with the extended license !" - Who is there a complaining in this sentence ???

I don't complaining, i try only to give a suggestion.

A suggestion for a third license type, like in other online stores.

A third license type like an 'Indie Game Developer License'.


megaionstorm ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 10:43 AM · edited Wed, 20 August 2014 at 10:48 AM

"Beside the fact that you are completely incorrect, you'll need to find the spot in the Game Dev license agreement, with each piece licensed as Game Dev, saying freeware is covered as well."

Extended License Quote:
"3d) The Buyer may use the Product to incorporate and embed into an electronic game or interactive media and distribute that new work provided there is encryption protection ... "

If i'am not wrong then i can use it in freeware, shareware software and equal business models without asking back !


Glitterati3D ( ) posted Wed, 20 August 2014 at 11:53 AM

Quote - "Beside the fact that you are completely incorrect, you'll need to find the spot in the Game Dev license agreement, with each piece licensed as Game Dev, saying freeware is covered as well."

Extended License Quote:
"3d) The Buyer may use the Product to incorporate and embed into an electronic game or interactive media and distribute that new work provided there is encryption protection ... "

If i'am not wrong then i can use it in freeware, shareware software and equal business models without asking back !

Right, as long as you pay for the Game Dev license.  There you go, problem solved.


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