I have asked this several times before and every time i was told that they would look into it but nothing happens. Since almost all products are now DS only, I now absolutely need a filter to find products I can actually use. Opening up every product to check the software requirements is ridiculous and I am not going to do that.

If you still want my money, you need to install that filter

Yes, it is beyond a joke now. Shopping isn't fun anymore - it is hard work. It's bad enough that most of the promos aren't even marked with who they are for, but now there is so much DS stuff I can't find the poser stuff anymore. Love esther

The filter is about as necessary as when DS users needed one years ago from all the Poser content that had "not tested in ds" or "compatible in DS with material adjustments. A "head in the sand" filter shouldn't be anywhere in the todo list of site changes when other things could be done to improve the site.

Besides looking at the front page items are plainly marked with the figure name with even some items that say "for Poser". You don't even have to click into the product page to see that.

There's a real simple solution for this that requires only the cooperation of the PAs. Just add the words - "For Poser", "For DS" or "For Poser & DS" to the end of a product name, as necessary.

There is a character limit in product titles.

And you can see in what's new many names are cut off already, so it will not be shown.

Also for old products that means that Rendo staff needs to edit thousands of product names.

Good paying customers have every right to request a feature that makes it easier for them to buy products here at Rendo.

Biscuits posted at 2:15PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273351

There is a character limit in product titles.

And you can see in what's new many names are cut off already, so it will not be shown.

Also for old products that means that Rendo staff needs to edit thousands of product names.

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Good paying customers have every right to request a feature that makes it easier for them to buy products here at Rendo.

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The product specified is also specified in the main promo image thumbnail on that same first page as well. Still not an issue as the product use is right in plain sight and in text. The one product name that ran over the size of the column can still be seen by hovering the mouse over the title and it tells you exactly what it's for.. "genesis 3 female"

MattGreenfield posted at 2:20PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273347

There's a real simple solution for this that requires only the cooperation of the PAs. Just add the words - "For Poser", "For DS" or "For Poser & DS" to the end of a product name, as necessary.

And quite a few are already there on that page. There are "For Daz", "For Daz studio 4.8", G3F, "victoria 7", "For poser", "for Victoria 4.2", etc. At least 9 of the items that didn't have a software type and of that only 3 were DS only.

It amazes me that when a customer asks for something, Someone jumps all over them about it.

I use Studio and Poser, and noticed the same thing about the store myself.

But what do I know about running a website...........lol..........

I would find it a lot easier to shop here if the genesis and DS only stuff were filtered out. I think I spend a lot more money on 3D assets than you do Male_M3dia. If I'd never spent at renderosity I would probably be able to buy a new car with that money.

"I have asked this several times before and every time i was told that they would look into it but nothing happens. Since almost all products are now DS only, I now absolutely need a filter to find products I can actually use. Opening up every product to check the software requirements is ridiculous and I am not going to do that.

If you still want my money, you need to install that filter"

When shopping in the Marketplace, if you select a department (such as characters) you will see the filters on the right side of the page. You can then select which software you'd like to use it in so you will only see items that will work with that particular software.

If this is not what you are looking for, please let me know what other filter you are requesting.

Thank you,

No that is not what I am looking for and probably the same with others. we like to see what's new, and all the goodies. that is the easiest way to shop. Love esther

estherau posted at 7:21PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273403

I would find it a lot easier to shop here if the genesis and DS only stuff were filtered out. I think I spend a lot more money on 3D assets than you do Male_M3dia. If I'd never spent at renderosity I would probably be able to buy a new car with that money.

But the issue is because people haven't bought a lot of Poser products so the market is asking for DAZ Studio items, so it doesn't seem feasible to create a filter and go through and tag things that work with poser only, daz only or both (which would probably be a difficult task within itself) for current and future products when your results would only be a few items, just because a few don't want to see them. That's probably why it hasn't been implemented. If Poser users have kept buying items there would honestly be no need for a filter.

Who spends more on content is up to debate, as I buy here, Daz, RDNA because being a vendor isn't my main gig, but I know between all those sites, in addition to my software license maintenance fees over the years I've racked up a bill that certainly be a good down payment for a car every year, in addition to the money I pay for vacations, and international travel expenses I have to put up front and get reimbursed by my company. The PA gig simply pays for the content (since I do invest in my craft) and the vacations. I buy both DAZ and Poser content here for use in my artwork and promos, so let's stay on subject. And I can almost always tell what the product is from the description or the model used without even looking at the product page. It seems to me, especially when I read these posts, you're more interested in not seeing DS content rather than search for Poser content, and no doubt Rendo probably sees it too.

shvrdavid posted at 7:56PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273391

It amazes me that when a customer asks for something, Someone jumps all over them about it.

But that sounds like the thread you locked yesterday on the SM Poser forum. :) Yeah, that person went about it the wrong way but his and the other member's concerns were valid and they got jumped on by people insulting them and breaking the TOS, but you banned the one with the complaint without a warning. So no, I don't think you should even be surprised. And that wasn't the first time that situation happened either.

It would be a bit of both really this request has already been submitted but would be on an ever growing things to do list. The filter would be the only way to achieve this because as Biscuits has pointed out staff would have to go and update thousands of previous uploads and this would be impossible. It would have to read the software description line under the title only and nothing else ie Poser 7+. If it were to read the entire description for keywords then anything with 'Not tested in Daz Studio' would also show up in Poser section. Also Poser and Daz products are not the only products in the marketplace so they will need to consider those products not essentially designed for but could be used for one or the other, in some cases both 3D OBJ's, PSD's or 2D backgrounds etc. Now because this has been bought up a number of times even I have raised it on the member's behalf at least twice I am guessing it is not exactly a simple click of a few buttons and there you go. The developers need to find the right way to do it, and we all know what happens when something is introduced and it doesn't work properly.

Kristi, What Esther said - I want the What's new filtered for poser products. I do NOT want to go to EVERY category to filter out Poser products. You have the information on that for all the products. I want that in a more permanent filter on the What's new and other pages as well. I have explained that before.

Being ignored as a customer is not a good thing

Male_M3dia posted at 8:27PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273421

But that sounds like the thread you locked yesterday on the SM Poser forum. :) Yeah, that person went about it the wrong way but his and the other member's concerns were valid and they got jumped on by people insulting them and breaking the TOS, but you banned the one with the complaint without a warning. So no, I don't think you should even be surprised. And that wasn't the first time that situation happened either.

I did give a warning, right in the thread....

You have a habit of telling everyone what you know about something, when in reality you know very little about it.

But whatever..... I will just consider the source, just like everyone else does.

shvrdavid posted at 10:03PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273431

Male_M3dia posted at 8:27PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273421

But that sounds like the thread you locked yesterday on the SM Poser forum. :) Yeah, that person went about it the wrong way but his and the other member's concerns were valid and they got jumped on by people insulting them and breaking the TOS, but you banned the one with the complaint without a warning. So no, I don't think you should even be surprised. And that wasn't the first time that situation happened either.

I did give a warning, right in the thread....

You have a habit of telling everyone what you know about something, when in reality you know very little about it.

But whatever..... I will just consider the source, just like everyone else does.

A warning the thread, yes, that's fair. My comment still stands, especially about the insults and bullying. But hey that's why all that is over there now and thankfully not here.

So what your saying, is that you are assuming that all I did was what you can see... Got it.....

shvrdavid posted at 10:23PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273436

So what your saying, is that you are assuming that all I did was what you can see... Got it.....

It's not the first time, so my comment still stands and you still didn't address the bullying comments and this is the third post. Let's get back to topic since there is really nothing more to be said.

No, you started this and your grabbing at straws. That is why you want to get back on topic.

You derailed this thread with your own words, you do that a lot and continue to do so.

I didn't ask you to call me out for something you know very little about, but you did and now your back peddling.

But no one reading this will be surprised about it, they will just consider the source.....

wimvdb posted at 10:00PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273425

Kristi, What Esther said - I want the What's new filtered for poser products. I do NOT want to go to EVERY category to filter out Poser products. You have the information on that for all the products. I want that in a more permanent filter on the What's new and other pages as well. I have explained that before.

Being ignored as a customer is not a good thing

This is on the list of things to get done as I understand what you are talking about.

This will be in the near future and I hope it makes you and others very happy :)

Have a wonderful day,

To the other members, let's keep to the subject at hand.

Thank you,

KristiS posted at 10:12PM Wed, 22 June 2016 - #4273447

To the other members, let's keep to the subject at hand.

Thank you,

So what your telling me is that I should allow someone to slam me with false facts (while derailing the thread he adamantly opposes) too try to and make me look bad.

All while you allow the same things to happen over and over and over...

Got it, Kristi... Carry on............

I give a +1 for a software filter!

(and a +1 for giving a certain troll a proper slap to keep them in place, getting tired of seeing them be allowed to derail and disrupt thread after thread, the ignore function is in use but only helps so much...)

Okay guys keep a level head and no fighting please. An action that a moderator carries out on another site is of no interest here and there is always 2 sides to every story. I am sure the OP would rather discuss their Poser filter request.

It is unreasonable to expect staff to categorise every single product, but a simple clear labelling of New Products which are not obviously P or DS would be welcomed.

I'm not a vendor, so I don't know the processes, but why couldn't the admin have the vendors go back categories their existing products? There's no program filter in the freestuff section but when they redid everything, some of my stuff was wrong and I was able to fix it.

RedPhantom posted at 12:06PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273482

I'm not a vendor, so I don't know the processes, but why couldn't the admin have the vendors go back categories their existing products? There's no program filter in the freestuff section but when they redid everything, some of my stuff was wrong and I was able to fix it.

Vendors are not going to do that. They're not employees and good luck trying to force to to update old products descriptions. Doing that will not affect their bottom line, not when customers can already search for their products. They're making new products and that's really what the store wants. Even if Rendo attempts to make a filter, it is a monumental task to do data entry on a store catalog this large. When DAZ was creating metadata for all their products, I know they had to hire a bunch of temp workers to do it, and it still took months.. and the amount of products they have is smaller than it is here. If the staff is anything like at DAZ, it's a small staff wearing multiple hats; it would be impossible to have them devote time to do these edits and still manage the store. And you would have to have data entry programs and conversions scripts in place before you even start. You'd be lucky to have something in place by next year. The most feasible solution that would be done the quickest would be to enourage vendors to have more the descriptions clear in product names or the main promo thumbnail for new products, which it looks like is being done now.

As a roundabout solution for now, you can manually add the software filter to the end of the what's new url. You'll need to get the specific wording from using the current built-in filters on the right side of the page when looking in specific categories, but once you have your new what's new filtered urls, you can bookmark them.

Some examples:

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?br=new&software=Daz+Studio+4

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?br=new&software=Daz+Studio+4.9+ONLY

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?br=new&software=Poser+11

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?br=new&software=Poser+Pro+2014+%26+Game+Dev

I think a filter would be extremely helpful, why should I have to waste time even reading product descriptions for items I can't use? Not to mention the page load times. It also would be helpful to have the option to filter out what I already own. The less stuff I have to wade through that I already have or can't use the more time I can spend looking at things I might actually buy. Yeah, I know the icon is a (slightly) different color, but still it would be far faster to not see them at all and only be looking at stuff to buy.

As usual, we get disinformation spilling into the thread. Lets put some facts into the thread for all to see.

When you list a product here, you have to fill out all of the information about it including all the things that Male_M3dia says would be to hard to put into place.

These are just two of the sections that you are required to fill out with every submission to QA, That's the way it works here, and not the way he eludes too.

Everything is already there to do what he says is a monumental task to do in the first place. It is already in place.

If Rendo wants to put something in place, the information should already be there. If it is not, it could only have happened for three reasons.

That info was not required because the product is ancient. (Which means it probably isn't active/shown in the store now anyway)

The Vendor did not fill out the information. (Yep, were all human)

QA did not enforce the info to be filled out before approving the listing.

There's the facts. It is as simple as that..........

Maybe he should just come right out and say, "Don't fix this store, come to another one instead !!!"

Looking at it from an angle that knows how it works, he is doing nothing more but eluding to that without actually saying it.

Its amazing when someone actually puts facts into a thread, versus whatever you want to call the other stuff.

Carry on...........

shvrdavid posted at 2:57PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273500

As usual, we get disinformation spilling into the thread. Lets put some facts into the thread for all to see.

When you list a product here, you have to fill out all of the information about it including all the things that Male_M3dia says would be to hard to put into place.

These are just two of the sections that you are required to fill out with every submission to QA, That's the way it works here, and not the way he eludes too.

Everything is already there to do what he says is a monumental task to do in the first place. It is already in place.

If Rendo wants to put something in place, the information should already be there. If it is not, it could only have happened for three reasons.

That info was not required because the product is ancient. (Which means it probably isn't active/shown in the store now anyway)

The Vendor did not fill out the information. (Yep, were all human)

QA did not enforce the info to be filled out before approving the listing.

There's the facts. It is as simple as that..........

Maybe he should just come right out and say, "Don't fix this store, come to another one instead !!!"

Looking at it from an angle that knows how it works, he is doing nothing more but eluding to that without actually saying it.

Its amazing when someone actually puts facts into a thread, versus whatever you want to call the other stuff.

Carry on...........

As you didn't read my comment, I said vendors are not going to go back to old content and change settings. Staff does not have time with their other duties to do this manually. An undertaking this size requires more manpower, and resources and budgets have to be allocated to make this happen.

My scripts and data entry comment stems from the fact of my 20+ years as a systems architect, Bachelors in Computer information Systems and Microsoft Certifications with application design (that's my main gig), what you've shown is WOEFULLY inefficient for updating the thousands and thousands of product records with the proper classifications. You would have actually known that when you navigated to that form from the main menu bar at the top. Now try doing that a few thousand times for each old product. You need an separate form streamlined for data entry or it will take forever for the project to finish. And you need a form that will allow you to directly edit the product records, not log in as each vendor then edit records, which is what you just showed us.

I ended my previous post with saying that that the best hope to get something in place quickly was to encourage vendors to put clearer descriptions on their new products and thumbnails moving forward as it seems most people complaining in the thread are more concerned about not seeing New DS items, not actually searching for Poser items. It's still not going to change the amount of Poser items being released though. By posting that form you basically showed where vendors can put the proper information in their new items, nothing more.

Male_M3dia, I don't see why you are so against improving the site and making it easier to find products. As you've said, DS users have asked for this too. This is something that would benefit all shoppers. As far as if vendors are willing to do it, if Rendo insists, they'll have no choice. In the real world shopping malls are probably the closest thing to the market place. Any vendor wishing to set up shop in a mall has to fulfill certain guidelines or risk losing their lease. Rendo can say that vendors have by a certain time frame to update all product listings or risk the product being discontinued. Vendors with more than 'x' number of products can have so much longer. Rendo can even offer a service to do it for a small fee that will cover the cost if they need to bring in temp help. Yes, there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth. There always is with any change. But most vendors will eventually settle down and do it. Like you said, they want to make money. And it might weed out some of those ancient poser 2 products that probably are of no use to most people these days.

RedPhantom posted at 3:36PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273507

Male_M3dia, I don't see why you are so against improving the site and making it easier to find products. As you've said, DS users have asked for this too. This is something that would benefit all shoppers. As far as if vendors are willing to do it, if Rendo insists, they'll have no choice. In the real world shopping malls are probably the closest thing to the market place. Any vendor wishing to set up shop in a mall has to fulfill certain guidelines or risk losing their lease. Rendo can say that vendors have by a certain time frame to update all product listings or risk the product being discontinued. Vendors with more than 'x' number of products can have so much longer. Rendo can even offer a service to do it for a small fee that will cover the cost if they need to bring in temp help. Yes, there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth. There always is with any change. But most vendors will eventually settle down and do it. Like you said, they want to make money. And it might weed out some of those ancient poser 2 products that probably are of no use to most people these days.

I'm not against improving the site... if this is what that was. This is not simply the case in this instance, and I think everyone knows that. And resources should not be allocated in this instance just because people who don't like DS don't want to see it's products now that Poser products are being made less, especially when there are other things should take priority for development. That's what this is really about. Besides since a lot of products are intertwined between the two programs, it would be a solution that would be hard to implement and do properly and would take a long time to do because of the amount of products involved and manpower needed.

A better solution and something way more cost effective is making products a bit more descriptive moving forward, because this is where the complaints have been focused on. It is also something that could be done far quicker than manually classifying and modifying thousands of records.

Parsing and extending databases is not rocket science, they teach you that in your first semester for Christ's sake.......

I know far more about managing server's, databases, etc, than you would ever give me credit for....

I have a degree as well, in Systems Installations, Had my A+ and dropped it years ago because it isn't worth the paper it is written on. A+ isn't worth a hill of beans unless your working on a Microsoft op system. And very few servers run MS op systems, imagine that..... I took all the Dbase, Sybase, SQL, Cisco, Sun, Oracle, IBM stuff, etc as well.... It was a requirement, not an option.

Oh look, I can fluff my feathers for all to see too.... Whop de do.... no one really gives a shit either, do they.....

You missed the main point thou, and that is the fact that there is no reason to add what is already there. What you eluded to not being there at all. Parsing the database to farm out info, well that is no where near as hard as you claim it is.... If it was, large server stacks would be offline for months versus the few hours it actually takes to rebuild enormous databases for additional entries. And I am talking about databases that would not fit on Daz's and Rendo's servers combined. Just about everything you have said, has been proven to not be the case. You can twist it however you want too, and continue to do so.

What I showed in my previous post, is that system is already in place and that the database structure is already there for a large percentage of the items in the store. I was not suggesting that every single item in the store be done one at a time and have no idea why you would even think that. There is no need to extend the database that already has those slots there to begin with either.

You twisted it to fit your own agenda... Nothing new there either, you do that all the time.... Need to add things to those slots? Well that is not too dam hard to parse out, populate, then add the code so the user can search it either. What would probably have been a better option was enforcing Vendors to populate all the items requested before it was approved by QA. But since that was not the case in the past they either need to ignore the request or do something about it.

They are not ignoring the request. Kristi has already stated that it is basically in the works, but you act like you know far more about it than an actual Admin of this very site. Ironic isn't it, she said in the near future and you claim it is next to impossible to do..... I doubt that Kristi has the time, manpower, or the inclination to do the impossible. But she already recognized a need to do something about it and verified that something is in the works. Contrary to everything you have said....

Stop trying to tell everyone that you are the authority on all things everywhere, because you know very little about it and show that with every post you make.

Yes you may have what it takes to get it done, but you obviously don't know everything about it and it is very obvious to anyone reading this.

Face it Male_M3dia, you are arguing something that is already there, and you don't even fully understand what the OP even asked for.

On top of that, you went off on some wild tangents in the process....

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?br=new&figure=Victoria+4

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?br=new&branch_category=3D+Figure+Essentials%3BAddOns%3BClothing&software=Poser+7%2B

Note how these URLs filter the What's New content just as they would if the sidebar were there. Clearly the PHP template driving ?br=new uses the same backend as other templates that do have the filter sidebar, because this filter works just as it does elsewhere.

Kristi, please ask the sysdev responsible for the site's PHP to refactor "new"'s template to use the same PHP includes that the other categories' templates do since it obviously works. Unless I'm very much mistaken here this is a five minute edit, and I know how peoples' hackles rise when they hear outsiders saying this.

Duplicate any of the other category templates with a sidebar, replace the query with the one in What's New and replace the existing What's New template with this one. If there are any other category pages which don't have this sidebar do the same for them.

Thank you in advance.

shvrdavid posted at 5:12PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273511

Face it Male_M3dia, you are arguing something that is already there, and you don't even fully understand what the OP even asked for.

On top of that, you went off on some wild tangents in the process....

I totally understand and I understand the motivation as well. That's why I said what I said, and that's why it hasn't been implemented. If it was easy and logical, it would have been done by now. But as one of the staff said, it's on the back burner, and we all know why, because it's not feasible given the reasoning the people asking for the filter are giving. The developers have more pressing things on their plate than emotional requests.

duanemoody posted at 4:17PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273515

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?br=new&figure=Victoria+4

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?br=new&branch_category=3D+Figure+Essentials%3BAddOns%3BClothing&software=Poser+7%2B

Note how these URLs filter the What's New content just as they would if the sidebar were there. Clearly the PHP template driving ?br=new uses the same backend as other templates that do have the filter sidebar, because this filter works just as it does elsewhere.

Kristi, please ask the sysdev responsible for the site's PHP to refactor "new"'s template to use the same PHP includes that the other categories' templates do since it obviously works. Unless I'm very much mistaken here this is a five minute edit, and I know how peoples' hackles rise when they hear outsiders saying this.

Duplicate any of the other category templates with a sidebar, replace the query with the one in What's New and replace the existing What's New template with this one. If there are any other category pages which don't have this sidebar do the same for them.

Thank you in advance.

I will certainly talk to the Marketplace manager as well as the programmer about your request

shvrdavid posted at 5:18PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273510

Parsing and extending databases is not rocket science, they teach you that in your first semester for Christ's sake.......

I know far more about managing server's, databases, etc, than you would ever give me credit for....

I have a degree as well, in Systems Installations, Had my A+ and dropped it years ago because it isn't worth the paper it is written on. A+ isn't worth a hill of beans unless your working on a Microsoft op system. And very few servers run MS op systems, imagine that..... I took all the Dbase, Sybase, SQL, Cisco, Sun, Oracle, IBM stuff, etc as well.... It was a requirement, not an option.

Oh look, I can fluff my feathers for all to see too.... Whop de do.... no one really gives a shit either, do they.....

You missed the main point thou, and that is the fact that there is no reason to add what is already there. What you eluded to not being there at all. Parsing the database to farm out info, well that is no where near as hard as you claim it is.... If it was, large server stacks would be offline for months versus the few hours it actually takes to rebuild enormous databases for additional entries. And I am talking about databases that would not fit on Daz's and Rendo's servers combined. Just about everything you have said, has been proven to not be the case. You can twist it however you want too, and continue to do so.

What I showed in my previous post, is that system is already in place and that the database structure is already there for a large percentage of the items in the store. I was not suggesting that every single item in the store be done one at a time and have no idea why you would even think that. There is no need to extend the database that already has those slots there to begin with either.

You twisted it to fit your own agenda... Nothing new there either, you do that all the time.... Need to add things to those slots? Well that is not too dam hard to parse out, populate, then add the code so the user can search it either. What would probably have been a better option was enforcing Vendors to populate all the items requested before it was approved by QA. But since that was not the case in the past they either need to ignore the request or do something about it.

They are not ignoring the request. Kristi has already stated that it is basically in the works, but you act like you know far more about it than an actual Admin of this very site. Ironic isn't it, she said in the near future and you claim it is next to impossible to do..... I doubt that Kristi has the time, manpower, or the inclination to do the impossible. But she already recognized a need to do something about it and verified that something is in the works. Contrary to everything you have said....

Stop trying to tell everyone that you are the authority on all things everywhere, because you know very little about it and show that with every post you make.

Yes you may have what it takes to get it done, but you obviously don't know everything about it and it is very obvious to anyone reading this.

Yes, but systems installing and A+ certification isn't a 4 year degree is it? And it has nothing to with programming, data flow diagrams, entity-relations, etc; it's with hardware and OS/network installations. One of my old jobs paid for me to take a few of the A+ courses as well to understand how the corporate network was set up around the application was running. It's totally two different things as a VP at my old job learned when he tried to omit me from designing a online merchansiding store with Intel and included the Network manager instead of me. When it fell apart and they threaten to drop us as a client, who do you think knocked on the President's door and they ended up sending to Intel's headquarters to explain the system, since I was the one who was in charge of the sales ordering system for all products? Like I said, this is what I do.The VP ended up getting fired by the way as I joined the project team officially. So yes I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to product sales systems, so you probably should listen when I say this isn't an easy task.

Back to topic.

Male_M3dia posted at 4:25PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273508

RedPhantom posted at 3:36PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273507

Male_M3dia, I don't see why you are so against improving the site and making it easier to find products. As you've said, DS users have asked for this too. This is something that would benefit all shoppers. As far as if vendors are willing to do it, if Rendo insists, they'll have no choice. In the real world shopping malls are probably the closest thing to the market place. Any vendor wishing to set up shop in a mall has to fulfill certain guidelines or risk losing their lease. Rendo can say that vendors have by a certain time frame to update all product listings or risk the product being discontinued. Vendors with more than 'x' number of products can have so much longer. Rendo can even offer a service to do it for a small fee that will cover the cost if they need to bring in temp help. Yes, there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth. There always is with any change. But most vendors will eventually settle down and do it. Like you said, they want to make money. And it might weed out some of those ancient poser 2 products that probably are of no use to most people these days.

I'm not against improving the site... if this is what that was. This is not simply the case in this instance, and I think everyone knows that. And resources should not be allocated in this instance just because people who don't like DS don't want to see it's products now that Poser products are being made less, especially when there are other things should take priority for development. That's what this is really about. Besides since a lot of products are intertwined between the two programs, it would be a solution that would be hard to implement and do properly and would take a long time to do because of the amount of products involved and manpower needed.

A better solution and something way more cost effective is making products a bit more descriptive moving forward, because this is where the complaints have been focused on. It is also something that could be done far quicker than manually classifying and modifying thousands of records.

In all fairness I do not believe the OP was asking to only see Poser items. I could be wrong however the way I read it was they just wanted a better way to be able to tell which item is for Poser or Daz in the what's new.

We had talked before about members being happy if there was a "P" and a "D or DS" on the thumbnail box.

I assure you there will be an easier way to tell soon.

I believe this answers the OP's concern.

No need for any further fighting and going back and forth.

If anyone has any issues, please site mail me...do not post them here as the fighting will not be tolerated.

Difference of opinions are fine however there is a line between difference of opinions, baiting, and or attacking.

As I understand it what we would like is to have the same filtering sidebar in What's New that's on the other pages, which would solve this problem without needing additional programming (as well as being able to filter by figure, item type, etc.). Let's not overcomplicate this.

Wouldn't it be easier to have the vendors appropriately categorize their own products for future items and have something in each members PROFILE to be a main filter for the MP? IE, I use "x" programs and don't want to see anything but products for those programs in the MP. That way, there doesn't have to be a gazillion filters IN the MP and the member can still see "What's Hot" and "What's New", etc for just the products they want to see. Makes sense to me.

Laurie

LaurieA posted at 4:33PM Thu, 23 June 2016 - #4273536

IE, I use "x" programs and don't want to see anything but products for those programs in the MP.

Have the MP store these checkbox values in a cookie as preferences. Again, problem already solved by existing site infrastructure.

We have all met multiple times about this within the past month and went over a bunch of scenarios with the programmer and ultimately it is the Marketplace Manager's and the programmers call.

I just know there is an easier way to tell if it is a Daz, Poser, or Daz and Poser product and it will be implemented in the near future as they are working on it.

KristiS posted at 3:23PM Fri, 24 June 2016 - #4273583

I just know there is an easier way to tell if it is a Daz, Poser, or Daz and Poser product and it will be implemented in the near future as they are working on it.

Help me figure out what I'm missing here:

What's new: Poser

What's new: DAZ Studio

Doesn't this already work?

Male_M3dia posted at 3:30PM Sat, 25 June 2016 - #4273519

Yes, but systems installing and A+ certification isn't a 4 year degree is it? And it has nothing to with programming, data flow diagrams, entity-relations, etc; it's with hardware and OS/network installations.

Wow, you really are off your rocker. When I took Systems Installations it had a requirement before you could even apply to take the courses. That requirement was a Masters of Science in Systems Engineering. And your right, it took far more than 4 years to get it......... If you got your degrees out of a gumball machine, so be it. I did not....

Ironically, the school I went too, is now a nursing school.... Which I am sure you know everything about as well.

So by all means, tell everyone what you think you know about me, and my lack of education and understanding of these things........

Get real.......

shvrdavid posted at 5:07PM Sat, 25 June 2016 - #4273692

Male_M3dia posted at 3:30PM Sat, 25 June 2016 - #4273519

Yes, but systems installing and A+ certification isn't a 4 year degree is it? And it has nothing to with programming, data flow diagrams, entity-relations, etc; it's with hardware and OS/network installations.

Wow, you really are off your rocker. When I took Systems Installations it had a requirement before you could even apply to take the courses. That requirement was a Masters of Science in Systems Engineering. And your right, it took far more than 4 years to get it......... If you got your degrees out of a gumball machine, so be it. I did not....

Ironically, the school I went too, is now a nursing school.... Which I am sure you know everything about as well.

So by all means, tell everyone what you think you know about me, and my lack of education and understanding of these things........

Get real.......

Good grief Let it go already, You should know the system architect, who would design the order entry system, only asks the system engineer what hardware and networking requirements that the system should run on. That's it. Let's not act like that piece of paper allows you more than that. I'm questioning your amount of education, only that education does not qualify you to design a software system like mine does. You would be in the same spot as the Network manager in those Intel meetings, knowing nothing about designing a software system, letting the project go around in circles for months until I went over the VP's head and the President sent me on the next plane out to the headquarters, explained the system to a room of 15 developers and Intel management and answered their questions about interfacing their corporate webpage to our sales order entry system to order Intel-branded merchandise and got the project back on track.

Now please stop derailing the thread. Thanks.

You assume far to much...

I said degrees <<< (that's plural for the vertically challenged) in my post, and only posted one of them.

As far as derailing a thread goes, you have no room to talk...

Well since you didn't post the one that would prove me wrong, I doubt those other degrees really matter. And since this helps the conversation at all, I'm going to bring this derailment to a close and hit ignore button and get back to zbrush after buying this stuff that's been sitting in my cart. You'll be alright after a while

LMAO!!!