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Subject: Oddity in figure creation

ockham opened this issue on May 18, 2020 · 5 posts
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ockham ( ) posted Mon, 18 May 2020 at 11:19 PM · edited Thu, 05 September 2024 at 7:34 PM

I've noticed this before with a building, but didn't really pin it down. This time I pinned it down in the CR2. The model is a phonograph, about two feet wide. I made the figure using a PHI file as always, and didn't resize or rescale anything after making it.

Most of the X origins are 'infinite'. The only exceptions are the few joints that I visually set using the joint editor after forming the figure. Those are reasonable numbers.

The infinite X origins and X endpoints look like this:

endPoint 1e+15 0 0 origin 1e+15 0 0

They show up as 9999999999999999.... in the joint editor.

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ockham ( ) posted Mon, 18 May 2020 at 11:30 PM

I wouldn't have been able to visually set the ones that I did set, except that I always use Python to place the joint center in the actual center of the part before hitting the joint editor. If I didn't habitually use my centerer script, I would have noticed this problem earlier because the green cross would have been totally unavailable! (1e15 poser units is about 1.5 trillion miles.)

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ockham ( ) posted Mon, 18 May 2020 at 11:47 PM

... which is 3 light years. Would take quite a few sweeps of the camera control to get there.

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FVerbaas ( ) posted Tue, 19 May 2020 at 2:28 AM · edited Tue, 19 May 2020 at 2:30 AM
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Yes Poser is infinite!

I also do not know how it was before, zeroes? Would be a more sensible choice for an absolute default, if only because with those settings for the centre a minute change in a rotation angle [Place display text here](Place link URL here)will move the object out of view. Note we always look at a degrees-radians conversion a limited accuracy to begin with.

Suggestion:

  • allow coordinates of the origin to be given in the hierarchy input file. This ties in with scripted figure generation. ( and please make conversion call scriptable)
  • if no coordinates are given use geometric average of the facets of the geometry.
  • if no geometry given use PNU (0,0,0).

ockham ( ) posted Tue, 19 May 2020 at 6:54 AM

After more experimenting: The infinites aren't there immediately when the figure is created, and they aren't there after one unchanged resave from Poser. They must have appeared after some fidding and adjusting. Now I can't make them reappear intentionally!

Must be an alien gremlin that pops in occasionally from Alpha Centauri or someplace out there.

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