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Subject: Transparency bug in Poser 12?


RAMWorks ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 9:33 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 5:12 AM

Is there a bug with the transparency in Poser 12? Seems that even removing EVERY thing that makes hair shiny I still end up with a weird gray halo when put on a black or dark background. Don't remember this being an issue before!

Here I have turned off most of the layers on the hair prop except 3 layers, Scalp and to Curl layers. This is what I get in the below render. I've also included my settings as well!

I've been playing around endlessly to try to squash this but I can't seem to get there. These settings have a very dark glossy map so it's not like allot of light is going to reflect off of the hair, should be more strandy bright bits but instead it's sort of dull but then that halo effect is not attractive!

Keep in mind, I've tried these settings without ANY specular plugged in to no avail!

Jonas Curls 1 Settings.pngJonas Hair Shader III.png

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 9:45 AM

Transparency map: filter=none and gamma=1?

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 9:49 AM · edited Thu, 05 November 2020 at 9:50 AM

FireFly? You plugged an Image into Translucence_Color which is not how that channel works. You need to use a Diffuse node. As it is, you just emit the image color directly onto the surface - it glows.

I wrote an extensive tutorial on this but SM deleted it and Rendo didn't bother to save anything.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 9:51 AM

All that's left

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TheAnimaGemini ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 10:21 AM

bagginsbill posted at 5:18PM Thu, 05 November 2020 - #4403446

FireFly? You plugged an Image into Translucence_Color which is not how that channel works. You need to use a Diffuse node. As it is, you just emit the image color directly onto the surface - it glows.

I wrote an extensive tutorial on this but SM deleted it and Rendo didn't bother to save anything.

Honestly, you should write a book about your shader tutorials. This is a real misery how much valuable information get lost over the years. I am the first in the line who will buy a copy. I am sure it will sell like fresh croissants.

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Rhia474 ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 10:32 AM

I second that. I can't math, but the info you shared through the years taught me a lot.


RAMWorks ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 10:47 AM

Well as I mentioned there were experiments with NOTHING plugged in but the Bump, Diffuse and Transparency and I was still getting that glow!

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Azath ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 11:20 AM · edited Thu, 05 November 2020 at 11:22 AM

remove alternate_specular node or try to replace it with the transmap image leaving the rest as it is


RAMWorks ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 11:24 AM · edited Thu, 05 November 2020 at 11:27 AM

OK, to specify .... the render was from Firefly. The Superfly renders out fine with no halo effect against a transparent background!

Here is a Superfly render and Firefly render, both with the settings you see below!

Jonas Basic Settings.pngJonas Hair Firefly.pngJonas Hair Superfly.png

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 12:51 PM

@RamWolf you know you can have two sets of mats in one mat zone? That is what the check box is for on the root. You can have a FF mat shader tree and a SF mat shader tree and as long as the FF is checked for the FF and the SF is checked for the SF then they will both work when rendering with each render engine.

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RedPhantom ( ) posted Thu, 05 November 2020 at 1:13 PM
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based on the shader you are showing, there are 2 potential problems. 1 the translucence is set. That can cause glowing. 2 the specular is not black but very dark gray. I copied the image at took it into psp and took a color sample rather than eyeball it. That might be just the site's compression, but I'd double check it.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 06 November 2020 at 6:35 AM

You still have the translucence turned on with a non-black color - doesn't matter if nothing is plugged in. The color chip is on. It glows.

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