Woohoo they look prett darn good to me you even made my black spot look good :o)........Steve

Wow, We ha dmissed this one until Steve brought it to our attention. Meggi found it and shes one tough lady when it comes to graphics. Her comment was "we got to get these guys out here for a few weeks". Mean while I found Pans site, If you haven't been there it's pure eye candy. That guy should be a fashion designer. Great, Pan!!! You have the address. You and Steve make one heavy pair. We are still trying to figure out the black spot???? Must be a micro data dot with Steves "water Mark" in it. Beth sent us a really good first on the head theat needed very few changes( all quite small),, thats another hunk-of talent! This is living proof that these forums are a real public service when people from the world over and in several languages can pool their talents for a good cause. Shane/Meggi

LOL watermark :o).....no its a blemish that is very anyoying and only shows in Poser4....I can normally get rid of them but this one won't go, call it a small tear in his pants LOL.....Steve

He's just a normal guy! Got a little ketchup on his pants while eating lunch on his way to the shoot... and he didn't notice! (sheesh - beat up the poor kid just cause some hot-dog vender used to much Heinz 57...)