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Subject: Today's IR LOL


picnic ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 9:44 AM · edited Wed, 07 August 2024 at 6:13 PM

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Up early--sun obviously in the east. My first ones got flare (altho' I kept them--kind of neat--cyan flares). Took lots--the recommendations have been in the midday, no moving air, etc., etc. Rules are meant to be broken I say. I'm trying to figure out when/why I get the sepia and other times b/w. I know creating custom white point does this--what else?? I'm one of those people who says--'now--what happens if I do THIS??' Now--off to work. Diane


bsteph2069 ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 1:16 PM

My science back ground starts asking all kinds of questions. It's clearly an energy thing. Emitted light energies ect. One way I would try to get a handle on it is to create some sort of gradation of substances and observe the effect. But I didn't think you were a scientist so that may not be you cup of tea. It may not be mine either! I think one problem you will encounter is that different plants may well bew colored different colors although they are at the same temperature. Because I gather that the IR filter is not actually temperature sensitive but Infra Red Energy dependent. OK. How about this can you photograph water, fruit juice, and rusty water. And wood, concrete, and plastic? Please, please, oh pretty please? I simply have to get me oine of those IR filter things!! Buy the way any ida how one develops IR film? Nplus, Alpha, somebody. Bsteph


picnic ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 1:56 PM

Bsteph, there are a lot of IR sites out there. Dealing with it digitally and in film seem to be pretty different. I'd do a search on google for infrared photography. I read a good site on film IR, but I didn't bookmark it. Think it was a link from one of the good digital IR info sites. If I find it again, I'll post it here. Diane


nplus ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 3:08 PM

It is basicly the same process as normal b/w film. color IR is slide film, so you just take that to your favorite photo store. One note to beware of when doing your own....ALWAYS be sure to load and unload your camera in TOTAL darkness. Changing bags DO NOT WORK they let an unbelievable ammount of IR through. I havve the specifics of development of kodak IR, but you should be able to find the development times easy enough.


nplus ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 3:15 PM

Just remembered something important.... the choice of developer also makes a HUGE difference in the contrast and grain in IR. For artistic purposes use D-76, for slightly higer contrast/grain use HC-110 (dil. B) for HIGH contrast scientific purposes use D-19. I have only used d-76, and hc 110..... I have seen work done with D-19 but do not reccommend it for pictoral purposes.


JordyArt ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 6:18 PM

Erm....can we go back to discussing f-stops, please? Thanx, guys...... (",)


Alpha ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 9:06 PM

Nice Diane... Are you doing much color adjustment in Photoshop after?


picnic ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 9:23 PM

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These haven't had any--I did just a bit of contrast on the ones yesterday, none on this one--just cropped a tiny bit. Now, my original ones would need post work. I should post one so you can see what I got in the beginning. Okay, this is what I got for my very first shots. I was following instructions of one of the digital IR sites--use sun/daylight setting for whitepoint, use Tv mode (shutter) at a time that would give you f6.3. Use the daylight/sun because it would lean toward green channel--then split the channels and work with the green channel which would most likely be sharper, etc. Well, I really wanted some sepia and preferably some cyan too, so I switched to manual and custom white point. This is the photo--done as I said above. Below this I will post the green channel with a bit of contrast added. Nothing wrong with it if I want all b/w--which I may for some, but in some cases, esp. when I use very white as white point, the photos lean toward mostly b/w.


picnic ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 9:24 PM

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This is the green channel of above photo with a bit of contrast added--nothing else done.


picnic ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 10:42 PM

Attached Link: http://www.cliffshade.com/dpfwiw/ir.htm#samples

I'm rereading some digital IR info and thought you might like the link. http://www.cliffshade.com/dpfwiw/ir.htm#samples


picnic ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 10:49 PM

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picnic ( ) posted Wed, 11 July 2001 at 11:00 PM

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While reading anothe page, it was suggested to take photo and decrease saturation, then apply histogram adjustment. So--here's same photo with that done. Better than working with the green channel, IMO.


Alpha ( ) posted Thu, 12 July 2001 at 5:26 AM

Would love to have more links... I have a very hungry mind :)


bsteph2069 ( ) posted Thu, 12 July 2001 at 5:32 AM

Me too and thanks for the earlier information. Bsteph


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