Is it just me, or is the P4 female getting scarily realistic? Hair Yamato/Kozaburo Transmapped Hair Eyes Bushi's new P4 Female eyes Dress Jim Burton's new conformable dress Texture Anton's Miko texture Absolute minimum of post work in PS5 - mostly the background but a contrast/brightness shift on the figure Paul

Just my opinion, but no...sorry. The more we try to make the Poser figures look "Real" the more they look like very good department store mannequins. You know, the ones with glass eyes and real eyelashes and hair? -JH.

I gotta stop writing like a help desk jockey. I'm not that that much of a jerk ;-) Yes, the poser figures are getting more realistic. We're up to the Mannequin stage... _JH.

Well, my opinion. I really don't want them to be totally 'realistic'--might as well hire a model and photograph them. The slight 'unrealistic' quality is intriguing and mysterious. It also gives us license to do things with them that would seem weird with real people. However, the steps achieved with the hair and textures are wonderful--I would never want to go back unless I wanted a more 'cartoonish' character for a reason--sometimes that would work with certain 'styles'. This is a lovely image, BTW, no taking away from that. It is so superior to what I saw (and STILL was intrigued with) in early Summer that there is little comparison. The combination of the lovely texture (try Diane G's Nikko too-I like that one also), the wonderful realistic hair, and the terrific new dress are so captivating. Diane B

Who wants real? ;-) For my purposes, the '3d perfection' look of the Poser models is PERFECT for my needs. I'm making an online role-playing adventure. Most people play games like this to escape from reality, and enjoy choosing 'unrealistically perfect' avatars to represent their online personas. By the way! I discovered 'my ideal look' when playing with Poser recently! :-D Take that Karen with freckles texture, add the Zygote fairy bun in red, and voila! If life followed art, THAT'S what I would choose to look like. Ah, well, here, I'll slap up a photo to show you.

Allerleirauh I just saw a special on TV called "what is beauty" or something like that, any way what your were discussing is the very thing they were trying to point out.The average person if you take half of thier face and mirror it placeing it right next to the original you get a very different looking person due to the dissemilarities between a persons left and right side.However the actuality of "beauty" is regularity or symmatry. All of the so called Super models on advertisement when split and mirrored look exactly the same.So while the perfection of the poser rendered model doesn't look "real" it is the ideal which most of the world accepts as beauty

Heck with a mirror... Just scan a frontal shot, split the face and flip the halves and you can see how asimetrical a person really is. For me Poser people are just 3d caricatures or virtual dolls. No matter what you do to them or how realistic their clothes are they still look like dolls. ;) Ever see the movie "Looker"? ;) ~DerekG