ah yes, but thenit would be blatantly sexual and fall into catagory 1, not catagory 2 (the genetalia part)

Folks, you all know this is supposed to be a PG/R site. While I agree that the gallery mods here are not always consistant in their interpretations of what images constitute a TOS violation; I have to give them a bit of slack if only because of the sheer volume of images that they have to go through every day. I think that for the most part (just a theory), the inconsistancy may be due to the fact that unless something is truly blatent and calls attention to itself, certain images that may indeed violate the TOS, or are borderline, are left alone unless somebody complains about it. Unfortunately, people usually complain about things that are different than they, and we all know that different is scary.

Why not just save yourselves the hassle and post any image with content more risque than basic cheese/beefcake, somewhere that you know it will be welcome?

I want to add my thanks to Clint and Scott for addressing this one. It's a lot easier to stick to your guns than it is to admit you were wrong. Thanks, guys.

Thanks eirian. Is it over? Can uncover my eyes now? ;-)

Well, you could move us into C&D... :-) (joking!) This is one of those issues that will always arouse strong feelings, Scott. I'm sorry if you felt attacked. Momcat and LadySilverMage have a point here, you know? The logical, if more contraversial, solution is to apply the TOS more stringently, not less. I would simply ask that the same standard be applied regardless of the gender or (apparent) sexuality of the characters portrayed. But...shutting up, now. I've probably said too much already :-)

Kudos Clint! I applaud your sense of fair play and your ability to admit a call that you felt may not have been warrented! Not many people thank a moderator for being so fair or admire him for being able to make such tough calls and tough admitions, but I for one really appriciate it. This particular issue of one image being considered 'unacceptable' but tons of others that are the same or worse being OK, is very personal to me. It was the cause of my leaving the Yerf.com galleries and urging others to boycott their unfair practices. My artwork (All /clearly/ furry, all fully clothed, All single characters in no way sexual positions.... one dancing, one pouncing upon a mouse, and one posing rather snobbishly) were all removed and my entire gallery was deleted without a warning. I received a rather terse message about it not being their type of art and take it to some smutt site. I at least had a friend who took the bombshell of a flame I was writing to the powers that be and made them aware of what was going on (The bombshell was about 3 full pages of nothing but links of people's artwork that showed full frontal nudity, sexually suggestive poses, and non furry art that had been there for over 6 months and no one had touched it or even objected). The Powers that be though stated that while they would return my gallery, they were still going to uphold a bad ruling by a powermad administrater that thought that tiny toon furries were the only thing acceptable. They would allow me to stay on, but they supported his decision to be a pr*ck and supported a call they knew and admitted was a bad one. I was the only one they attacked, everyone else's art stayed up and nothing changed. Thus I have personally boycotted Yerf.com for 3 years. When I contacted them three months ago about returning now that they apparently had cleaned house, they asked me why I left. I sent them copies of the entire fiasco and they never contacted me back. Apparently they weren't so cleaned up as they let on.... that or they're still nursing the implied black eye I gave that jerk of a moderator. I am so thankful that this place has such nice people, that it can be talked out and bad or questionable calls can be discussed, and the moderators are so mature as to be able to see that their call might have been in error or even a bit too difficult to make without public opinion. HUGS!! I very much agree with the way this thread seems to be going. A ruling that does not apply to everyone, should apply to /NO ONE/. Either it is universally enforced or it is universally ignored. No exceptions, no excuses. Anything else is unfair. Border line cases are always difficult, but each borderline case should result in the consideration of the current regulations and if a rewording should be in order to make the line more clear. I realize that it's difficult to make the that decision when the line is hazy and I applaud someone being able to face it so well, but that the rule could be misconstrued to apply to one but not another of near the same picture implies to me that the TOS needs to be reworded to include such a situation and the site's stand on it. Just my thoughts ;) The 200lb Gorilla

Clint.. *Since i caught this at the end.. not going to comment on anything but to applaud you for admiting you were wrong and apologizing to the artist. * I only had to look at this because a few members pointed it out to me. Frowning at inbox Quite a few actually, but I am glad it was solved and am definately glad to see it has been resolved :) oh and...:) Renderositca will be more than happy to accept those images. Make that Renderotica? grin Storm *now everyone who emailed me.. i saw it okay? L

Thanks for all the comments gang. But you know .. when your wrong your wrong. :) What can I say. Sorry about the typo with Renderotica, wasnt intentional. Have a good one. Clint