Does anyone know where to find good water mats for bryce? i have not found any and am fustraited by the same ol mats that bryce provided for me.

I've got an idea for ya, tiptup! Make your own textures! It's really easy and Bryce is disgustingly powerful if you know how to play with the DTE. Jump into it and start messing around...! Here's a little mini-tut I posted a while back, it might help you or at least help to open your mind up a bit...

You can look here, 324 links, most of them old. Just gotta keep looking. shadowdragonlord: Freaking Awesome display of the DTE!!!! Absolutely perfect. AgentSmith

One easy(-ish) way of creating realistic water to use more than one bump map. I don't mean just within DTE (as above), but within the materials lab select 2 or 3 dots (materials) instead of just the one (hold down CTRL and drag the mouse over the dots). Doing this and varying the % coverage size on each material you can produce all sorts of effects, like areas of windy waves on a calm lake, etc. Use the same method with diffusion too, if you're brave. You can use this method to disguise repeating JPG textures as well. Mix your bumps and diffusions on the JPG with procedural textures and you need never worry about repeating patterns again! ;) Maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but for subtle patterns it does work!

SDL, your replies to questions are like mini tutorials, I can't tell you how much these help me do things. A picture truely is worth 1,000 words! Thanks!