I believe we could find a significant number of people in our image-creating/artistic arena who have some form or degree of color-blindness...as I do. There may be a few who can only see in shades of grey, but I'm referring to those of us who can see, enjoy & revel in colors... but we just don't always know WHAT those colors are. I have learned to use the Adobe-type color picker, to type-in the RGB numbers. It's helpful, but not nearly enough. There's nothing to tell me what is brown, or orange, or violet or the varying "skin tones". Well, I was just hoping there might be someone in our community who is not just good with colors, but can also grasp the plight of the color-challenged, & perhaps offer some help. A list of RGB values for colors would sure help. A long list. With the colors actually named. Sincere thanks for any help or suggestions!

Interesting question. Hadn't thought about that before. Surprising it hasn't come up before, considering that about 5% of males have some color vision limitations. A quick Google search using RGB color names match turned up this link, which seems to fill the bill: www.timestream.com/mmedia/graphics/colors/ns3names.html

Here is another site that might help: http://eies.njit.edu/~kevin/rgb.txt.html There are several tables of colors and it looks as if the name list is fairly extensive.

Thanks, ockham, for the reply. I checked out the site & it's quite helpful; I've bookmarked it, & will print it when I get my printer up. I can still see a need for more info since I have to do so much "by the numbers". Working with human figures skin tones often seem so subtle. How would one color a fair-skinned Kashmiri & an olive-hued South Indian using a chart? ...For instance

Thank you, dialyn. I've also bookmarked this site. Now I'll be able to print up a much better list of RGB numbers from these 2 websites to tape next to my monitor; it'll definitely be helpful to me. (Ahh, now I know what "Brown" is, & can stop fretting about making green hair.) I wonder if there's some Physical Anthropology site somewhere that might show/list skin tones?

I hope someone else will respond, because I seem to remember someone having hair and skin palettes. This might give you a start for skin (it only has the number references, though): http://www.sanctuary4u.com/~carinsharon/tutorial/skin_tones.html The other thing you might do is take a graphic and sample the different skin areas using Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro or an equivalent program. This is for a cartoon, but it does give some idea of color ranges for different shades of skin: http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/flesh/fleshtone3.html I'm sure someone here will come up with a better references.

Look under "palette" under the Freebies. BastBlack has True Color Palettes for Poser and 2D. I don't know if this might help....I don't have StuffIt Expander or Photoshop, but if you have those two programs, this might help with hair, skin, and eye colors. Might be worth looking into.

While Googling, I noticed that the language underlying Poser Python has a built-in color name table. So I couldn't resist building a little Python script to use this table. Download the attached text (MESSAGE####.TXT) and rename it to COLORPICK.PY and put it in your PoserScripts folder. Get into Poser, bring up the Python window, and bring Colorpick onto one of the buttons. (If you need more description on this, ask me; I don't want to break the thought too much.) With a prop or figure part in the scene and selected, activate Colorpick. You'll see four little windows. Enter a name in the upper one, and hit Go. The RGB value for the name will appear in the lower three little windows, and your selected object will assume the color! Close the Python window afterward, or hit the "No" button. [[[Next message will include the list of colors.]]]

The attached text is the pre-made list of colors that came inside Python. This is not case-sensitive, and the numbers seem to be sort of automatic. For instance, the list includes AntiqueWhite1 AntiqueWhite2 AntiqueWhite3 AntiqueWhite4 but if you enter antiquewhite the underlying mechanism will pick AntiqueWhite1 automatically.

That is very cool! That's nice to know for all of us. Thank you!!!

The Python thingie I built works on the main or "diffuse" color. If somebody wants variations to set the ambient, highlight and reflective colors, those are easy modifications. Also, if somebody can find a correspondence between this color list and some other (more standard?) list, I'll be glad to make an alternate version that uses the other list. I don't know enough about paints and such to know whether such a standard list exists, let alone what it might be called.

Wow! I just ran out to get a bite to eat, & when I came back I found all this wonderful help. Thanks so much! I have Poser5, but as yet haven't tried any Python action yet, though I know I'll delve into it eventually. Perhaps now's the time. Also, yes I have made extensive use of the ol' clone tool and scanned known colors/textures...but it takes sooo long. I just hoped someone might know a more efficient way...maybe "by the numbers". You all have been extremely helpful with this . Thanks again!

I dug deeper and found the actual color list. Here it is again, with more shades than the earlier post, but without the numbers. Most of the shades have 1,2,3,4, and there are 100 different grays. I suspect the numbers are unnecessary except for the grays. It seems to contain spaced and unspaced variants, so that "alice blue" and "AliceBlue" will work equally well.

Don't worry, using Python is quite easy, though writing it isn't. On the main menu, hit Window:Python scripts. A list with 10 buttons will appear. Find one of the buttons that says only "..." on its face. Click that button, and you'll get a standard "Browse" list. Find the desired script (in this case ColorPick.py) and open it. The 10-button list will then contain this script. Select an actor and click the Colorpick button, and then follow the directions above.

ockham! I am awe-struck. Before seeing your last 2 messages I decided to take a stab at Python. The program that you just "whipped up" is impressive! I figured out how to work it, & then played with it for awhile... see non-rendered pic.

One thing I haven't got figured yet is how to retain the colors in rendering. I tried both Firefly & P4 renderers, with both draft & production modes. Prop colors fled, though her clothing figures retained the Python-added colors.

Attached Link: http://www.hikarun.com/e/

Here's something else that might help you. It helps me a lot since I share your "affliction". WhatColor is a color picker for the colorblind that tells you what color the mouse cursor is on. Its shareware, but I don't think that there's a time out. http://www.hikarun.com/e/

Thanks very much, Netherworks! I just downloaded it, & will be trying it out tomorrow. It looks like it may be an excellent tool.

This little program is brilliant - I use it all the time. Yes - I'm another one 'afflicted' with colour blindness. I'm forever doing stuff that I think is blue only to find out it's purple LOL! But this little program is a gem! It helps so much.

"One thing I haven't got figured yet is how to retain the colors in rendering. I tried both Firefly & P4 renderers, with both draft & production modes. Prop colors fled, though her clothing figures retained the Python-added colors. " Okay, I'll check on that. There must be some kind of "make it stick" function that I'm not using yet. Also, I'll build an inverse version that gives the name of the chosen material.

Attached Link: http://www.retouchpro.com/pages/colors.html

Here are some skin color and hair color charts, however they do not have names, only the RGB and HTML codes. They may be some help.