Well; here's why I was trying to get her eyes to work in Carrara. I want to completely redo all the shading in this. And I only realized after shading everything that the hat on the woman in back is too far forward. Of course naturally I imported the entire scene as a single object from poser... :( (Why do I keep doing that? I know it causes me trouble later on when I have to change stuff...) Anyway; this version of Vickie is from Poseworks, The texture on the woman in back was also downloaded. In fact everything in here is stock stuff. Originally I only planned to see what I could do with Vickie's face but I kept adding stuff in and ended up with this scene. :) Vickie's got a morph to give asian eyes, fuller cheecks, smaller chin, and a rounder mouth. The figure I started her with also had a lot of hip work which I kept in and a lot of face work which I got rid of since IMO it made her even uglier than the default Vickie which seemed to not match for the outfit she had and the pose I used.