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The "Invitation"

DAZ|Studio Glamour posted on Mar 08, 2007
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Ok......Here's the saga of this image and how it made me hurl expletives. LOL As often is the case, I should have been doing other things, but I was playing instead. It started out as an image simply to show off some textures I had made for the G2 Elegance dress (which I will be uploading soon as freebies). Of course I needed some kind of classy scene to put Sydney into and decided it was high time I did one with a ratracer set. I absolutely love all of his stuff and on top of that he's a really nice gent. So I set up the scene and then decided it needed some dramatic lighting. I ended up putting 17 of them in, all SDK shader lights, mostly point. And so began the render, adjust, render again, adjust some more, render again, compare, tweak more settings......you get where I'm going with this. LOL. Since there were so many areas to light, and each time a setting in one was tweaked it affected light levels in other areas, it required a LOT of testing. Having learned the hard way to save, save, save, I did just that...regularly. I was almost happy with it, tweaked it one final time and was doing a final test when D/S crashed. I mean bigtime crashed, not just the render crashing, but the whole program. The first expletive was a single four letter word. And then a sigh, and then reopening the program and reloading the last save. Only problem was...........the last save was corrupt. That brought about a few more words worthy of a bar of soap in the mouth. Of course, once I loaded the last save before that, I realized how much work I had lost. I also discovered something I've seen before in D/S. When using the updated lights from the SDK, when you save a scene containing them and reload it, not all the settings load as they were saved. For the point lights, the decay settings were not saved, which was really frustrating because a small change in the decay setting can ake a big difference in the final outcome. The other thing that creates difficulty is that the preview doesn't look anything like the final render when using the SDK Point lights, especially when using lots of them and in combination with Distant and Spot lights. Even when I set the parameters up like they should be, lights in the reloaded scene didn't render the same way they did before the save. Adjusted the scene, still goofy lights. More bad words. So I set off to rebuild my light set. Essentially what I did was reload the scene and then began to replace every SDK light with a non-SDK light using the copy and replace option. Here is something I learned while trying to rebuild the lights in my scene: If you have them parented to certain things in your scene, unparent them first. The reason for this is that when you do a copy and replace, it will take the transform values relative to the item it is parented to and translate them to be relative to the center of the scene rather than the item it was parented to because the replaced lights come in unparented. Your light could potentially end up waaaaaay off from where it was before, as mine did. D/S crashed again, I rebuilt it again. More nasty words. Often when you rebuild a scene, it turns out better than the original. Not so in this case. I never got it looking as good as my tiny test renders did again. So I decided to scrap the dramatic lighting idea and instead see what would happen if I turned on shadows for most of the lights, and refections for most of the surfaces. Oddly enough, D/S behaved like a most angelic child, obviously having gotten over its earlier memory isssue tantrum. Funny how these images so often start out as one thing and become something totally different. LOL As always, thanks for looking. It is very, very much appreciated. And a special thanks to those of you who took the time to leave such wonderful comments on my last few images. :)

Comments (86)


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onebaretree

7:19PM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Absolutely beautiful render! This is gorgeous. Incredible posing, dress textures & composition. Mind-blowing lighting, shadows & reflections. Amazingly classy scene & straight into my favourites. :-)

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Kartika

7:39PM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Gorgeous reflections! Excellent work!!!

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jwiest

8:26PM | Sat, 10 March 2007

Oh wow...the shadows and reflections came out spectacularly! That's an invitation I'd be hard pressed to turn down. Beautiful!

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shanpoo

1:00AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Superb image!! I think this piece came out so beautiful that a big fav in in order.....Shannnon ;}

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callad

1:13AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Well, don't know where to start... (Charley gives it a try anyway...:) The overall scene is AMAZING!! (Got me gasping for some air when I looked at it for the first time..) The soft colors are so very beautiful and well balanced.. And lighting/reflections... WOW!!! The character and pose are so inmense graceful and beautiful.. Her dress is so well draped and has an excellent texture. My utmost compliments persisting like you did after all the crashes D|S had.. I enjoyed it so much watching this beautiful work!!! A MASTERPIECE!!!

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Kerbad

4:51AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

wonderful my dear, very nice indeedy

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marco.dd

5:22AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Great D/S render, fantastic character, outfit and reflections, very interesting work

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erlandpil

5:32AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Just beautifult erland

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jif3d

6:07AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

After all that hassel you have ended up with a fantastic result ! but even my Poser6 does that, I mean not only crash, but it trashes your scene file as well, what's up with that DAZ BOFFINS ? none of my other 3D progs do it...anyhoo kool stuff ! ~Cheers~

evoluzione33

6:57AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Very nice! When I first looked at it, it reminded me of pulp fiction/mystery novels (like Mike Shane) covers. The mysterious women - "Oh, my husband Robert died... cut breaks... oh my!" :)

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kodewarrior1

8:14AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Fantastic and very classy render! The reflecions are outstanding!!

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Laksmi

11:38AM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Beautiful scene! Excellent lighting and composition! Superb!

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Ionel

1:00PM | Sun, 11 March 2007

One of the best DAZ creations I've ever seen for sure! Bravo!!!

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MMES

3:35PM | Sun, 11 March 2007

wow ,awesome dress & render ... so keep it up {o;

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thebasstard

4:05PM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Wow Excellent. So many reflections and shadows!

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arwenone

4:57PM | Sun, 11 March 2007

A gorgeous image and wonderful work!!

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Shimuzu

5:29PM | Sun, 11 March 2007

I think you did wonders considering the drama you went through. It's happened to me a couple of times to me too. So I tend to break up large files into separate renders, and save lights separately too. I find that this way you have much more control over the passes when you compile your image, and it is less taxing on your machine. Love the reflective floor and the whole compostion. Perhaps when you've cooled down a bit - you may tackle this one again?

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visionart

7:29PM | Sun, 11 March 2007

Perfection!!!

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jocko500

10:16PM | Sun, 11 March 2007

she is lovely looking and look like you learn the hard way in lighting. I know nothing but thanks for the head up in case I do

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PhilW

4:13AM | Mon, 12 March 2007

Beautifully done! I don't know how it looked before (and I can share your frustrations!) but it is the intricate lighting, shadows and reflections that really catch the eye in this picture!

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Madbat

4:54AM | Mon, 12 March 2007

Wow! Beautiful scene! The layout and texturing are excellent. (That's my house by the way)

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Ahmed_Salah

7:54AM | Mon, 12 March 2007

Really so nice scene .....Wonderull Image

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zescanner

8:53AM | Mon, 12 March 2007

I sympathize with your struggle to complete this scene and I commend your persaverance. I do not think I can add anything in the way of praise for this beautiful image that everyone else hasn't already said, but I do agree with them; this is a stunning image.

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soffy

11:17AM | Mon, 12 March 2007

fantastic room and Lady,shes very sophisticated looking,love the hairstyle and elegant dress,could be a scene in a movie from 1940-50s,excellent what you have created here**** :)

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Burpee

11:28AM | Mon, 12 March 2007

So gorgeous!! I love the coloration of this piece!

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ThomasMacCallum

1:23PM | Mon, 12 March 2007

Your something of a DS Jedi ;)

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darktower

8:55PM | Mon, 12 March 2007

Very elegant, incredible reflections!

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pixeltek

1:02AM | Tue, 13 March 2007

Lovely! Regal-like pose, gorgeous dress, and yes, those lights and reflections, all worth every one of your expletives :-) and dilligent slave-labor.

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akulla

7:48AM | Tue, 13 March 2007

This really sizzles, I would follow her anywhere. Nice piece of art.

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TwoPynts

8:03AM | Tue, 13 March 2007

Even without the "saga" this image speaks volumes. Well done on all points! 8')


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