I have been watching a post on PlanetSide.UK and the main Terragen forums there about transparencies and lake water using tgd2, and the problems of making water that is transparent as the build is to date. To follow the thread go to http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=1766.new;topicseen#new The reason I am posting this is 2 fold. First we need more people helping to build better Contests using tgd2 and this is kinda a call to arms and need to go to: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3018180&ebot_calc_page#message_3018180 To help us build a new base and get more people interested in doing contests and sharing there incredible art that I see every day here on rendo. The second is to get people into tgd2 more as it is so very powerful and while it does have a bit of a learning curve? it is well worth the time to spend learning this software for now and in the future. This is part of an ongoing experiment that we are all sharing in to figure this all out and some of this is in part Zionner's and other people working on solving this particular issue. Please feel free to go and help us build ideas and set new contests for us to play in.