I'm so happy with the Freak 4! Lets here people say M4 looks feminine now! I've been waiting for him for a while because the Freak build is essential to the plot of the animated project ("Suleiman's Ring: Exfiltration") I'm working on now. And, one of the first texture packs, Brock, was exactly what I needed for an important character. I started rendering this month, and this is actually a frame from that project. This SFC Gould, and his close up here took 38 seconds to render with loosely simulated GI. I really wanted to include GI, but with every trick I know in Carrara to bring the times down this frame would've taken about 5 to 6 minutes, and (female) characters with hair about twice that.