Hello everyone and thanks for looking... ...and thanks to everyone who commented on my last post and left helpful tips to the question I asked about setting up Poser 7 rendering. I really appreciate your help. Today I'm playing with Vue 7 Esprit. I recently posted a picture where I had to use some Photoshop postwork to try and fake some water ripples. Vue is great at rendering realistic water and refractions, but not so good at making waves or ripples, at least my version of Vue isn't. However, I got a great suggestion by gibby.g to try a trick using terrain brushes, and a cool tutorial at www.geekatplay.com. The water plane here is a terrain that was flattened out, then I used a terrain brush to 'draw' the ripples into it. I then changed the terrain to a wavy water material, and voila! Instant ripples! I then decided to get even fancier, and built the splash effect out of several torus rings and spheres all metablob'd together with the same water material. The sky and foliage rendered pretty quickly, but the water, and all the reflection/refractions took a fair amount of time, but I like how the effect came out. It rendered a little dark, but I lightened it up in Photoshop. How do you think I did? I'm looking forward to your comments on this one, and thanks again to the whole community for your help. Tom Seaview123