Bush and his goons had perfectly valid intelligence. Intelligence which they "cherry-picked", falsified, or flat-out ignored. The run-up to this war was a criminal farce. And...for WHAT? IF you cast the losses aside...show me what we gained.

Wars are never won killing people, even a lot are killed. Hitler killed millions and lost the war, American military killed other millions and lost all the wars, (who killed more?). Only in Vietnam war 2 or 3 millions were killed where 80% or 90% were not commies or vietkongs, they were simple civilians. With Iraq and Afghanistan was the same thing, few terrorists or Taleban killed and a huge number of innocent civilians (an easy target), the number never will be known, it doesn't matter, if someone is killed he was a terrorist and end of story. Sadly the story is not over and Obama, the Nobel Peace Prize, is nothing more than the continuation of Bush's work and expanding it to other countries, this time with a beautiful speech, but the same slaughter.

1954: U.S. overthrows democratically-elected President Arbenz of Guatemala. 200,000 civilians killed. # 1963: U.S. backs assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem. # 1963-1975: American military kills 4 million people in Southeast Asia. # September 11, 1973: U.S. stages coup in Chile. Democratically-elected President Salvador Allende assassinated. Dictator Augusto Pinochet installed. 5,000 Chileans murdered. # 1977: U.S. backs military rulers of El Salvador. 70,000 Salvadorans and four American nuns killed. # 1980s: U.S. trains Osama bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill Soviets. CIA gives them $3 billion. # 1981: Reagan administration trains and funds the Contras. 30,000 Nicaraguans die. # 1982: U.S. provides billions of dollars in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians. # 1983: The White House secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis. # 1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriega (also serving as President of Panama) disobeys orders from Washington. U.S. invades Panama and removes Noriega. 3,000 Panamanian civilian casualties. # 1990: Iraq invades Kuwait with weapons from U.S. # 1991: U.S. enters Iraq. Bush reinstates dictator of Kuwait. # 1998: Clinton bombs possible weapons factory in Sudan. Factory turns out to be making aspirin. # 1991 to present: American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis. U.N. estimates 500,000 Iraqi children die from bombing and sanctions. # 2000-2001: U.S. gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in aid. # Sept. 11, 2001: Osama bin Laden uses his expert CIA training to murder 3,000 people. and still the usa ask,,whare do al te people come from that hate us so mats!!the ahum terrorists,,YOU make them. Statistics for gun use??, 1. United States - 11,127 (3.601 per 100,000)and still the usa? dont geth? it.. 2. Germany – 381 (0.466/100,000) 3. France – 255 (0.389/100,000) 4. Canada – 165 (0.484/100,000) 5. United Kingdom – 68 (0.109/100,000) 6. Australia – 65 (0.292/100,000) 7. Japan – 39 (0.030/100,000) and read the raports of amnesty,and iraq, The 57-page report, New Order, Same Abuses: Unlawful detentions and torture in Iraq, describes how thousands of people in the country have been subjected to arbitrary detention - often in secret prisons - sometimes for several years without charge or trial, while many have also suffered severe beatings to obtain forced confessions. and of corse wikileaks.org

@dol: thank you for the time line. You can find a lot of details and summary about some of the coups in the book: "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" by Naomi Klein. Unfortunately Germany is within (in Afghanistan, not Iraq) the military empire business again.

What I want to know is what proportion of this death figure is Iraqi's blowing up other Iraqi's? Or are there separate stats for this? By news reports it seems that it would be something like... % of total Iraqi deaths by Iraqis blowing up eachother 80% (75% being civilians) % of Total Iraqi deaths by UN/American forces 20% Would love to know.

@kinchie - Did you try the link given? Try this link. Rather interesting if not depressing at the same time. http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/warlogs/

what can i say the prez of Iraq was killing his people. all is guilty

@jocko500. WOW such insight into world politics...... Jeez.

who can prove that they were "civilians" or rebels?what is the difference? when rebels takes shelter behind children/and or "civilians" and are killing the liberating force, stand there in the same position and decide if you will hold fire or not . I was not in the military even though I tried to enlist, but I can imagine is how hard it is for any soldier to determine who the enemy is, when they pretend to be "civilians" and look the same example the civil war of the USA Iraq,Iran, Afghanistan, is nothing new. just look at the carnage in Africa.at least if one can believe any thing the press reports

Such insight Richardphotos.... DUH!! Where do you get your news Fox? Go to sleep...... nothing to see or learn here... LOL