Continuing with the Harvest Time pack, took a break from texturing and thought I would model up something for fun, so a bucket. What started off with the idea of such a simple prop turned out to be a massive learning curve. Lessons learnt today; MoGraph makes work flow so much easier Attaching geom to a spline wrap modifier, why have I not been using this before! UV Mapping Geom before modifying; Learnt the hard way, take the handle for instance. I first did this using sweeps nurbs but when I came to UV Map it by selecting an edge and flat projection map and realigning using LSCM it threw me out a weird map. So, thought about it hard, modelled up a cube, grouped that with a MoGraph spline wrap modifier. UV mapped the cube, and BINGO one clean UV. Have learnt such a lot from this very simple prop. Must play more, this is fun! Rendered with UV Maps on for textures :) On a side note, I'm thinking of adding a few extra polys to the bands, what do you think? Just to round them up slightly more. Mike