The dialogue must go on regardless of anyone's passions if we are to survive. Above all the passion I prefer is love but it's hard to swallow for some. Helps if you get old, I think, while the eyes get more dim the way ahead actually gets more clear. But these words will not affect the young because experience can't be put on the market.. darn! Keep up with the dialogue! You may eventually sway a Fox viewer.

It's possible, but doubtful, that fox viewers will be attending this forum.

Yes, FOX viewers are here. The problem with the Progressive(Socialist) dream is that they assume that everyone is peaceful and full of love. As was witnessed last week, there are nuts that have no ability to control their impulses, fantasies or whatever causes them to separate from reality and civilized society. Besides these freaks of society, there are also power hungry monsters that are willing to kill whomever to build their "ideal" society. (i.e. Lenin (10% will never accept socialism and will have to be liquidated or Hitler building his master race or even Jim Jones building the perfect communist community). You libs need to read more history and not the whitewashed version being stuffed down the throats of our children. Here's a quick history lesson, the 2nd amendment was so the American Citizens could protect themselves from the government. Think about what the colonies had just gone through to rid themselves of a tyrannical government and if they hadn't had weapons, they would still be slaves to the king. Plus, the average response time to a crime is 8 minutes. So most of the time, as in the case of Tucson, there was no police to stop the crime, just clean up.

zorares: Thanks for chiming in. Seriously. My question for you is this: Why do those of your ilk insist on treating progressives( we are NOT socialist, nor do we hate them) as though we are naive little children? You tell us that the world is full of crazies: So your solution is to enhance their armament? You speak of history lessons: Where were you when history was made last week? Conservatives CHEERED when posse comitatus AND habeas corpus were stripped from our rights! Do you still delude yourself that your handguns are ANY match against Apache helicopters, Abrams battle tanks, or Army fireteams? Such naivete is the stuff of the conservatives, and the filler of body bags worldwide. Face it: Your concept of the Second Amendment is "dead as a Dodo"! Any such fantasy exemplifies the naive!

"Do you still delude yourself that your handguns are ANY match against Apache helicopters, Abrams battle tanks" There are other things that are very efficient against Apache helicopters and Abrams battle tanks.

Perhaps. But if they'd VOTE a fight wouldn't be necessary. At the last election less than 40% of the eligible citizens voted. If they won't even vote, they DA_N sure won't fight.