thank you Vashek for encouraging me to send this file out, you are right it does make a striking portrait. I am sure you all may have at one time or another heard me rattle on about the limitations of poser when I try to do my master renders and that I do everything at 10000 pixels high...well it was about time I showed a section from one of those master renders up close... however...when I render a square format image I only take them to 6000 pixels in size and this a small crop from the Barbarian to show the wonderful details in these large renders the prints I am doing are amazing, I am very happy this is just the most incredible technology and I am very glad to be able to create with it warm hugs to those that need them and even more for those that think they don't doc c