with this image i made second place on digitaldownunder in the Spring competion may 2011 http://digitaldownunder.net/forum/memberlist.php. now i was talking about parenting in the daz forum and also here with my uploads but i think i used the wrong words.lol,sometimes i think and talk too fast add some pc-chinese and daz- foinkonese,and nobody can understand,me anymore. what i meant by parenting was: i often use plots and terrains and houses from different sets and vendors wich are really not meant to be parented together,and i prepare myself this way a giant prop wich i can rotate and place wherever i feel like. now i took a different approach and parented within the same sets. for example ironman13's new house or pgmeri01's kazonika appartment. this works fine but in the first place when loading it does not parent even if you click on parent to,then i go and parent manually, (uncheck the box parent in place)and it goes where it belongs. so far i have figured this out. of course it will take a bit to get used to,also a recommendation is to create a second camera as the perspective view is in fact not a camera,that way when reloading the scene it comes back the way it was last when open. the rendering is very fast even with shadowmap and the quality of the new renderengine looks very good to me,crisp so to speak. of course i do have to experiment more with the lights(i was never a pro in lighting even in the earlier versions)so this is not a daz issue but this is a thing i have to solve on my own. overall i am very satisfield,a few minor crashes while parenting things, but nothing severe. after a crash the scene loads very fast,and i can continue. and yes lets wait and see what will be in the advanced version i do hope the vital plugins are included,such as auto fit. oh yeah and i miss the male genitals lol,and i wait for some more morphing posibilities. about dyn cloth,i am known as the artist who uses not much clothing lol,and i never got the hang on dynamics,but who knows what the future will hold. i thank you all for supporting me,and i of course support you the same way.giving and taking is my saying. i lost the credits on this one so forgive me for once not adding credits.