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Wunderwaffe 3 'Fw-190 TL'

Bryce Aviation posted on Nov 23, 2011
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In the early stages of jet developement, the Germans put a great deal of effort into designing a 'parasite' fighter.This was to overcome the limited range possible with the then current technology.Unable to come up with a suitable large carrier aircraft, these projects were cancelled and efforts were directed at bringing the Me-262 to fruition.It soon became obvious that the number of jet engines which had actually reached production status was quite modest, and that these would never keep pace with the massive output of aircraft considered necessary.New projects now began, to develope a single engined fighter thus doubling aircraft output at a stroke.In an attempt to improve the Fw-190, a jet engined aircraft known as the Fw-190 TL was proposed. This would have seen a T1 Turbo Jet engine of 600kg thrust in place of the BMW or DB radial engine fitted to a Fw-190 A. The suffix TL was short for Turbolarder Strahltriebwerk (turbocharger jet engine). The T1 engine, designed by Focke Wulf, included a two-stage radial compressor, single-stage turbine and annular combustion chamber. The Fw-190 TL would have a speed of 830 km/h (516 mph) at 8,000 m and an endurance of seventy-two minutes. Initial plans to vent the jet exhaust around the cowling, as with radial engines proved the undoing of the project, the velocity and extreme temperatures of jet exhaust would have had predictable results for the aircraft and it's pilot. With no solution to this problem being found, the project was cancelled in 1943. Not a lot of info on this one I'm affraid, but one of my favourites...... To address some comments from yesterdays post...Following the Me209's record breaking flight, the engine was returned to Daimler-Benz.The aircraft was put on display in the Berlin Museum along with the Heinkel it beat.By wars end, like the rest of Berlin, the museum was a pile of rubble.Some enterprising souls dug through the rubble and extracted anything worthwhile including the Me209.The aircraft was taken to Poland and vanished...untill 1999.During a cataloging excercise at the Polish Airforce Museum, the Me209 was discovered among a jumble of 'stored' exhibits.It was taken out and 35 colour photos taken.It was then returned to storage and has not seen the light of day since.Nothing remains ahead of the cockpit and the wings are missing but the fusilage still bears it's blue paint and the code D-INJR and the swastika is still visible on the tail.Germany has made several requests and offered a substantial amount of money to have the Me209 returned for restoration.The Poles however are quite happy for it to remain 'in storage'..understandable on one hand, but a great shame on the other..... Thanks for looking and all and any comments..... Tomorrow..." Who thinks up the names for these things "??

Comments (20)


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ACue

9:21AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

I really enjoyed you render, and your write-up. Very informative and entertaining. More, more!

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UVDan

9:21AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

A very interesting development. I have never heard of this one. When do you get to the VRIL craft?

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neiwil

9:26AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

VRIL is a different 'kettle of fish' but I have been looking into it and who knows ???.....

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debbielove

9:26AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

Well, Neil! This it has to be said, is a brand new one on me! Never ever heard of this before.. AND I used to own (wonder where it went?) William Greens - Warplanes Of the Third Reich (The original, not the new one, which looks cool but VERY EXPENSIVE!!!) I digress! Yes, this is new, and besides that the render is a top class one, love the POV!!! Are some of these Aircraft going to appear on ShareCG? Especially the Me163 lol.. Great info! And an update that I had read about, unfair of the Poles seeing they are members of the Cursed EU now! Top stuff mate! More! Rob

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neiwil

9:30AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

Available?...well Christmas is coming and I'm growing a bushy white beard so we'll have to see what I can cram in the sack this year..... :-)

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steelrazer

10:07AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

You have to hand it to those German engineers! I have to agree with Rob...I've never heard of this one either...wonder what else disappeared "beneath a pile of rubble"? These posts are like finding gems of history here and there. Good job unearthing them, Neil.

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peedy

10:07AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

Another fantastic image and model. Ho ho ho. ;-P Corrie

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preeder

10:10AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

Outstanding mate - very well done.

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T.Rex

10:46AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

Fantastic, Neil. I recall having heard/read about a FW jet design on the drawing boards a LOOONNNNGGGG time ago, but never quite registered it in my brain. This was very enlightening. And, they couldn't pass the hot gases under the cockpit - would have resulted in a fried-ass pilot. I'll be looking for a white haired and bearded someone come Christmas - hope his name is Neil and the EU air defences are not on alert! Rob and steelrazor have said a good deal of my thoughts. I really like the job on this plane. Would be fun having Santa's sleigh being pulled by one of these! (Big grin!) Keep up the fabulous work, Neil. Every day is a pleasant, fascinating surprise with chuckles and laughs. :-)

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flavia49

11:12AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

marvelous info and image

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android65mar

11:45AM | Wed, 23 November 2011

Entertaining and educational

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bmac62

4:23PM | Wed, 23 November 2011

You do such a great job knocking out these prototypes! If you had been available with your computer to the Fw factory designers in Bremen or Marienberg they could have put you to good use;-) I am sure you could have suggested placing the air intake and engine below/behind the pilot solving their Fw 190 TL problem. Or probably not...looks like they simply wanted a fast, inexpensive solution with little or no new engineering. Got another first rate series going here Neil.

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fly028

4:33PM | Wed, 23 November 2011

Very nice work!!! Nice point of vue. Good feeling of power and altitude. Love your text to explain on last post. So interesting. Another great work my friend!

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coyoteviper

5:56PM | Wed, 23 November 2011

Awesome render. I watched a history channel last night, interestingly enough, as germany fell, Hilter ordered a great many jet engine systems be shipped to japan by sub, A royal navy sub downed the U-boat that was carrying the engines, designs, and several jet engineers.

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Froggy

2:41AM | Thu, 24 November 2011

Very fascinating mate - hadn't heard of this aircraft before - i think it looks cool too ;)

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Maxidyne

4:37AM | Thu, 24 November 2011

What a differnece a few years can make. We were so lucky these weren't put into full scale production earlier in the war. Add me to the long list of people who have never seen this one before. Keep doing these as long as you like because no-one else is :-)

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jac204

9:52AM | Thu, 24 November 2011

Nice render and history. As you say, the it is understandable that the Polish want to keep it hidden, but at the same time we miss seeing something very historical.

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Osper

1:32PM | Fri, 25 November 2011

This has to be one of those "also rans". The Swedes and Russians did the same type of conversions to their prop aircraft. However..............(there's always one of those) conversions such as these didn't measure up to pure designs. Your research is always good.

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Briney

11:04PM | Fri, 25 November 2011

One engine eh? They should have got Blohm and Voss to do an assymetrical "Star Wars"-esque machine for them. Incredible....

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kjer_99

7:20PM | Mon, 30 January 2012

I have to admit that this is one aircraft I've never heard about before.


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