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100 Years Ago.....Part 3

Photography Historical posted on Apr 11, 2012
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Mixed feelings about today...went over to Liverpool Maritime Museum for their 'Titanic Exhibition'.Excellent,informative and very crowded..a lot of interactive stuff for the kids, film coverage of the Titanic setting off on her maiden voyage and newsreel footage following her loss.There were some interesting items like the above, and then.....some items 'recovered' from the ship.Some people see it as legitimate archeology, others see it as grave robbing, having come face to face with it, I fall on the latter side of the fence and so no photos of these items..... Above (worth a zoom) we have a Silver Dinner Service, part guilded with gold, presented to Thomas Ismay, founder of The White Star Line, by the shareholders of The White Star Line, on board the liner 'Adriatic' in Liverpool in 1885.It was designed by the artist G.A.Carter and made by the distinguished London silversmiths, Hunt & Roskell.It was intended to "illustrate the progress of the art of navigation from earliest times, to the present day". The grand centre piece represents 'Commerce on top of the World'. I can't help wondering how big his dinner table was..... Thank you for continued comments during my patchy posts and a bigger thank you for just being there...

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warder348

4:08PM | Wed, 11 April 2012

It's good to see your still around, miss the old days. Pretty fancy tabelware for a boat. Take care and post when you can!

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MacMyers

4:36PM | Wed, 11 April 2012

Wow. Beautiful... yet oddly unsettling at the same time.

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android65mar

4:40PM | Wed, 11 April 2012

All the best Neil; I haven't been at home so haven't seen the titanic stuff they have been doing in Southampton. Fascinating and terrifying at the same time (Having watched a documentary about the sinking of the Costa Concordia this evening I wonder what we have learnt in these last 100 years!)

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coyoteviper

5:05PM | Wed, 11 April 2012

very beautiful items. elegance was key back then.

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blinkings

5:44PM | Wed, 11 April 2012

Yeah Neil I know what you mean. And the worst part is, anyone with the equipment can go to the site and take whatever they like. I went to the Titanic exhibition over here and they were so strict on NO PHOTOS. They wouldn't even let me take my camera in. You might like THIS

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bmac62

12:49AM | Thu, 12 April 2012

Grand table service...fit for a king as they say. I am with you...don't disturb this famous maritime grave site.

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preeder

2:37AM | Thu, 12 April 2012

Great picture once again backed up by a great story but have to confess mate I am missing your artwork and the great stories that always go with it.

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Maxidyne

3:49AM | Thu, 12 April 2012

A very interesting line up Neil. I also struggle with legitimate archeology arguements and as fascinating as recoverd items are too see I still believe they belong in their resting place. I'm also hoping if the show any film over the weekend it will be "A Night To Remember" as apposed to "Titanic".

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T.Rex

7:08AM | Thu, 12 April 2012

Oh, my. Looks like the table ware of a monarch from the Baroque period. Quite typlical for the time - the more gaudy, the better. All these pieces seem to be serving pieces. I doubt if Ismay ate directly from any of them. They are a fine example of the art of the silver/gold smith of the time. Your photo does this work nice service. As for "legitimate archeology", my question is - is it necessary to fish up items from the Titanic? It's NOT a 2,000 year old wreck. Whatever was on board is also available to be studied in museums and collections on shore. There are also photos and inventories of what was on the Titanic, so no need to retrieve things. However, I do understand the idea of photographing the remains of the ship. Both from a marine architectural point of view, and archeological point of view. What does the ship look like after sinking? What damages? Can we learn from this? As for being a grave - witnesses attest to the fact that stokers, engineers, steerage class passengers and other people came up on deck as boiler rooms/engine rooms and other spaces started filling with water. I doubt if anyone was stuck inside the ship, hence it wouldn't be a grave. However, not many got into life boats, and those that didn't either froze to death in the cold water, or drowned. However, the Lusitania IS a grave, as are the countless military ships sunk during WW I and WW II. Keep up the good work! Nice to see you posting again. :-)

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flavia49

1:16PM | Thu, 12 April 2012

wonderful captures

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fly028

1:09AM | Fri, 13 April 2012

Vey nice shot and great story! Nice to see you back! very interesting, as ususal!!

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Froggy

1:20PM | Sat, 14 April 2012

Echoes of a glorious past, where's it all gone eh?

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Tryphon

1:47PM | Sun, 15 April 2012

Nice one Neil. A very good ethical question... Archaeology or grave robbing a very thin grey line indeed.


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