Deutsch: Ute und ich haben in den letzten Wochen festgestellt,dass wir uns in einem Rhythmus bewegen -à la “täglich grüsst das Murmeltier”,ich meine damit,dass es sich so eimgeschlichen hat : Ich “muss” meine Kommentare machen und ich “muss”Favoriten nehmen,weil XY von mir Favoriten nimmt etc. dann entschuldige ich mich weil ich zu “spät “kommentiere oder so. Ich glaube es geht auch anderen Leuten in der Community so,aber weil wir ja alle nett sind sprechen wir das nicht aus,und bewegen uns in einem Trott weiter wie ein Hamster in seinem Rad. Die Kunst und Stimmung an sich wird irgendwann darunter leiden,wir müssen aufpassen. Kommentieren sollte so ablaufen wie : jetzt gehe ich meine Freunde besuchen und schaue was sie geschafft haben und nicht “jetzt werde ich mal einige kommentare wegballern” (lach) ,ich meine hey wo sind wir.Ein Favorit sollte ein Werk,Photo,Collage,Modelling.. sein wo man “Wow,Wow “sagt wo es einen hochreisst und nicht automatisch Favoriten nehmen nur weil X und Y mich favorisieren usw. Der Sohn meiner Schwester hat uns gesagt dasselbe gibt es zb bei facebook wenn ich nicht “i like” klicke klickst du auch nicht “gefällt mir” und wenn ich dir nicht zum Burzeltag gratuliere wirst du meinen auch vergessen,das ist irgendwie kindergartenmässig. Wir würden uns freuen wenn wir zu diesem Thema ehrliche Meinungen zu lesen bekämen,kann ja sein dass Ute und ich auf dem falschen Dampfer sind,so nach dem Motto : ich bin “normal” und die anderen nicht oder die anderen sind “normal” aber ich nicht heheheheh. Fazit : Tut nur was euch Spass macht und nicht weil man es erwartet von euch,oder ihr glaubt es würde erwartet.

defacto ist das echte leben nicht viel anders Rene. Tu ich was für Dich, tust du was für dich und wehe ich hab mal einen geburtstag vergessen!! Eigentlich ist das daselbe ... jedenfalls ist es für mich immer wieder schön jeden Tag was neues von Dir zu sehen :)

I agre with what you said.... but let's go even further - FACEBOOK is worse. I only got on it because when Johnny was alive he said he was friends with my Wife's half Sister. That was 2 and a half years ago. I rarely write my friends at FACEBOOK - BECAUSE.... say I write you, I get every single comment that is meant for you.... I avoid FACEBOOK as much as possible, but I'm still there every day. .....as far as FAVs, I didn't use to give them, but as I got into the second year of being here, I got lots of complaints by friends.... I had a change of heart and decided to FAV my friends - for one, it's a way for others to see their work, so I don't have a problem with Faving my friends. ...some people are selective in their comments, I have seen them comment in other galleries but it's been a long time since they visited me - I still like them, but I question why I bother to visit them when they don't.... last one, I get a kick out of these artist that beg for comments and they don't give any - lol ...I like the girl in the pink - the one in the orange looks like a dude - lol

I have to say I pretty much agree with these sentiments. I guess its felt the heaviest when you've had to take a little time off from Rendo and return to a mountain of images that need to be almost work like processed, commented and fav'd. Its good to see your artwork well received in the galleries, but I don't like to think people are only visiting due to obligation. And its quite awkward to see people apologising for being behind in there comment posting. I guess its in the nature of online etiquette plus the favourite artist system of email notifications perpetuates this a little. Really I don't expect to see a fav'd every time someone visits one of my images. I'd feel better seeing them fav'd when they really like it. And in turn I can learn a little from there visit.

C'est le "I scratch your bach,you scratch mine....", ça a été toujours un peu comme ça, ici et ailleurs. C'est le lobbying, mon cher. Et c'est pourquoi tu trouves dans les charts des images qui sont sans mérite parfois.Pour ma part, j'essaie d'être honnête :D Bon elles sont bien mignonnes tes petits butineuses là-haut!

Very cute little petunias, Rene! A fun and colorful image. I agree with your statements about the favs and comments. But all the artists I comment on I do love their work and I do comment. I don't always fav a picture. But like you say, if it is a 'wow', and I really like it, I fav it. If I am gone for awhile and come back to the galleries, I will usually go through back, missed art, but don't always comment on it. I try to just stay with current material. With that said, I heartily commend you, Rene, for taking the time and having the tact to write such a well thought out opinion. Well done!

Wonderful work :)!

Une image superbe René avec des couleurs vibrantes pour l'ensemble ! Tu connais mon opinion sur le sujet, mais il est difficile de se sortir de ce "cercle vicieux", la peur de ne plus avoir de commentaire et de fav nous font continuer ... malheureusement je ne vois pas trop de solutions à ce problème, déjà que Rendo supprime le système de fav serait une bonne chose mais ensuite, si tout le monde ne joue pas le jeu, c'est perdu d'avance ...

Ich respektiere Deine und Utes Meinung. Auch wenn es nicht immer leicht fällt, die passenden Worte zu finden. Und einige lustige, auch "anzügliche", Worte machen viel mehr Spass, den Kommentar zu lesen und zu schreiben. Zum Bild: Ich dachte jetzt schon, Du bis auf dem Fairy-Trip. Grins.

rene du sollst dein leben so geniessen wie du meinst und von andern nicht vorschreiben lassen was du meinst oder machts,dann bist du selbst veantwortlich was du treibst mein freund ,so mach ich es gruss mani schöner sonntag gruss an utchen

Well said Rene, and needs to be said!! At the moment I just have time to quickly browse my fav artist but not comment on them as have so much happening in real life. There is the odd one I comment on if something like this is said or there has been a death etc, as I like to keep up to date with what is happening with my friends on here.. I am enjoying all the fabulous art by them all, yours included, but would hate to think that people visit my galley just to return a comment or fav or to get a favour or comment in return.. Have a wonderful day/new week my friend!!

Tolle Elfengrafik, zum Problm kann ich nur eines sagen, der Schuss wird mal wieder nach Hinten losgehen, weil noch soooooooooo viele an ihren irdischen Gütern (hier sind's die Faves) hängen!!!! Barry hat auch Recht, mit dem was er sagt!

that is what must be! lovely work here btw!

Super scene Rene. A different style from your sci-fi :)

I like the orange outfit but the character in pink better... I don't bother with facebook or any of those sites..Some mornings I don't feel like commenting so I don't..(gaming is still my #1 favorite) Posting your images should be fun when you have the time but unless you get paid for it why feel compelled to post every day?

Absolutely charming image, a fav from me - ONLY BECAUSE I like it :-). Western ways of life are quite often insincere - the site community behavior reflects that.. And after all, one does not have to be very serious about our game. My opinion - let people do as they like to do :-).

Wonderful fantasy scene and work Rene, excellent done and i love it.

Nice work on this adorable image Rene. I myself haven't posted any image in nearly a year and a half and only comment and favorite images and galleries of those who have a special place in my heart

I've already commented on Ute's 'rant'. Lol. But as to facebook, I joined cause of my family, & I mean aunt, brothers & sisters that are far away. I've met my aunt, but not the others. Its how I found them. There are a ton of artists & friends of artists that ask to friend me just cause I am a friend of one, now there are over a hundred. Most I've never heard of. & they all want me to comment on their jokes, links, words! Its crazy! I'm a pretty private person to begin with. What I post is mostly for my family. I set my security to family & friends. I don't know how others find me. My profile was supposed to be private. I have, however, found the 'Ignore & Remove' buttons. ;}~

I like these girls, they're pretty and cute. I agree with you on the visiting and commenting. what a nice group of people we have here that we're afraid of hurting each other. I visit most of my friends and comment on most of their images but I don't always favorite them. please don't feel you ever need to view or comment or fave my images.

Great render Rene. LOVE it, really do, and also love your write up, I know exactly what you mean, my thoughts exactly.

lovely scene and posing!! beautiful characters. I think people should do what they like, at least here in RR. I look at the artists' pictures here to improve my work, my technique. Sometimes it's a pose, a texture, sometimes a POV, a light, or an object that I didn't realize would be available. There is always something to learn from others, and of course there is the PLEASURE, the pleasure of admiring beautiful pictures and reading some wonderful stories. Yet if I wait until the image opens, it costs me nothing to leave a comment. It's a courtesy, a tribute to the artwork and the artist, a tribute to those who have already commented (and comments are an integral part of the image and of this community), an incentive for newcomers, and also provide a score to those who love to be in the charts. About favorites I usually click when it's a WOW! image or writing. I never thought commenting on my pictures was mandatory. I know that many people look at and only one third of them drop a comment, but I also see that some people comments from time to time, but is following the story, that's what counts. Life is hard and time a tyrant, many don't have time to comment. There are a hundred reasons either for commenting or not, let each do what he/she thinks is best, what he/she likes best. For my part I never made the exchange, "I will comment, if you give me comments" as many here know, and I never will.

i don't mess with the facebook doc, but i try not to let things like this bother me, if a artist comments or faves that's fine with me. i just find it disturbing when you've commented on someones art for years and they never give you the tod on your works. i try to keep my faves out of enjoyment rather then a favor cause someone faved mine. and i always rate a 5, some people don't offer rates but accept them. i don't expect everyone to comment on my every works that make regular comments. and it shows, sometimes some of my best friends don't comment on all of mine, which is fine, just tells me i need to do better next time. people like to say they are sorry when they been away doc, it's called kindness. if someone is late, i still enjoy there words. happy rendering Doc.

Won't get any arguments from me, Rene. And your image makes plain your thoughts as is is not your usual road to work.

Doch, ihr seid auf dem richtigen Dampfer :-) Der Tag ist zu kurz, man kann nicht stundenlang kommentieren und sollte es auch nicht tun, nur um Erwartungen zu erfüllen. Es muss Freude machen und sollte nicht in Arbeit ausarten. Alles sollte freiwillig und ungezwungen sein! Grüßle auch an Ute! Schöne Arbeit dein Bild hier!

I GOTTA agree with everything Mike said. I am usually slow on the commenting, and truthfully I suck at it. But every now and then I do comment. I used to only comment and fav what I thought was really GOOD work, but then I realized, my work isn't that good either, lol. This one...I like this one..Pinky really caught my eye. I like pink and I like legs....lol. Facebook,...I am actually hating it. I got 100 or so contacts on there, and truthfully, only stay on there for two or three. There are some good art groups in there that are Poser/DS less, so that and the few contacts are the only reason I stay on there.

Wonderful image Rene! I really like the one in pink. the one in the background does look a bit butchy and a touch annoyed at the one in pink... please read my response to Ute's latest. I think it says everything Have a great week and I hope the furkids are doing well

Jahaaa...manchmal kommt mir auch der Gedanke, vielleicht sollte ich mehr kommentieren..weil, dann steht unter meinen Arbeiten auch etwas mehr...nur bin ich von natur aus schreibfaul, und kommentiere nicht besonders oft, zum anderen, krieg ich dann doch nur viele Sätze aus Pflichtgefühl, ohne das die Bilder richtig betrachtet werden. Also lasse ich es wie es ist. Ihr liegt ganz sicher richtig...man hat doch im Leben noch was anderes zu tun..heyyy, noch ist sogar Sommer. :-) Das Bild hier möchte ich dennoch kurz kommentieren :) Sieht toll aus, auch wenn du sonst andere render zeigst..lach.. Ich mag sowas immer gern, schöne Farben hast du auch verwendet.."daumenhoch"

I agree Rene...Id LOVE to be able to comment on everyone images though, I just dont have that free time...and sadly some do get offended if I dont...thank you for this post. I dont expect any comments for my uploads, for one they are not THAT great and two If people cant, then they cant lol I post for the enjoyment I comment for the enjoyment.

you have a magical way to create beautiful scenes!!!!!!!!