I want to thank 'brain1969' for the lovely gift of this beautiful bike. He found the cool .obj model and shaded it himself. Then, knowing my love of bikes, kindly gifted it to me. So thank you my friend. It is a wonderful content add. As to my DAZ dilemma, it continues. Today I was suppose to get a new disk delivered but they were no-shows. Supposedly tomorrow. I sure hope so. It might fix the problem for reasons discussed in my last render. If not, at least some meaningful trouble shooting can be started. I have yet to hear a word from DAZ Support so I am guessing they really don't care all that much about providing customer support for their product. I would have better luck asking their vendors for help. To all of you who have helped and made suggestions, you are greatly appreciated. Be Well and Stay Safe ... Dag