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~NVIATWAS 2023~

Mixed Medium Fantasy posted on Dec 28, 2023
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~NVIATWAS 2023~ And now for something completely different, a classic NVIATWAS, but rendered with AI! 3D pose and camera set in Poser (with Vicky!), rendered in Stable Diffusion, postwork in PaintShop. For those not from the Poser-verse, it means "Naked Vicky in a temple with a sword". When people got started with Poser decades ago, they didn't have much contents, and human models come naked until you either make or buy clothing for them to wear. A temple and a sword were bundled with Poser, so a lot of people made 3D renders of naked women in a temple with a sword. "Victoria" was a popular 3D model back then, commonly known as "Vicky". Not surprisingly, one of my first 3D renders was one of those. It has become so iconic that if you search for "NVIATWAS" online nowadays, it has been added to the dictionary. LOL

Comments (9)


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Steff_7

7:15PM | Thu, 28 December 2023

Loving the pose and character here. Stunning work :)

Ken1171_Designs

7:27PM | Thu, 28 December 2023

Thank you! The pose is #9 from "Phantasie for A4". Since this is a NVIATWAS, I have used V4 instead of Dawn (for authenticity). But the twist was to render it with AI instead of Poser for something new. ^____^

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kalebdaark

7:21PM | Thu, 28 December 2023

Y'know, I'm gonna have to stop looking at your stuff and posting. I'm running out of ways to say "great job".

As good as many pros I've seen. Reminids me a bit of Joe Jusko's stuff.

Ken1171_Designs

7:29PM | Thu, 28 December 2023

LOL THANK YOU! 😍 Don't worry, it never gets old for me. Feedback is important to artists. πŸ€—

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Paulienchen

2:51AM | Fri, 29 December 2023

Eine fantastische Arbeit

Ken1171_Designs

11:55AM | Fri, 29 December 2023

Danke schân! 😍

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coralyn278

3:14PM | Fri, 29 December 2023

The AI part is pretty obvious. I've been mess'n with that for some months. If Poser has tools to better integrate with it, that's a smart marketing move. The AI (at least stable-diffusion) is still pretty tough to get something NOT pin-up related to match my expectations.

Ken1171_Designs

8:22PM | Fri, 29 December 2023

This image was made with a tool I have created to integrate Poser with Stable Diffusion, so I can set up the scene in Poser, and flesh it out in SD. The "Open Pose" plugin for Poser is listed in the "Production Credits" below the main text above. I am pretty much a pinup artist, but I was able to make all sorts of other things with SD, like for example, the Christmas pic I posted earlier this week (not a pinup). I use a different AI model depending on what I am trying to do. Was there something in particular you were trying to do? :)

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coralyn278

11:35PM | Fri, 29 December 2023

Well, the very first Ai image I tried to do and failed was some celerity walking on the moon surface with a lunar module in the background. None had an lunar module, and 80% of the images stable diffusion produced were likely palm springs scenes, as they had atmosphere and swimming pools in the background! So Ai is fun, and I can create hundreds of nudy pics in a few minutes, but if I'm trying to tell a story, that is bit harder.

Ken1171_Designs

2:08AM | Sat, 30 December 2023

Based on your description, it sounds like you may be using the wrong model and/or workflow for the task. Some models are specialized on pinups, and won't give you anything else because that's all they were trained for. You have to use the right model, and this has nothing to do with SD itself.

In addition, there are techniques like Image2image that could get what you want much easier. Just make a rough sketch of the general image, and SD can flesh it out for you. There are several ways to approach this using ControlNet. Prompts alone can only get you random things, but if you want specifics, you must use ControlNet combined with Image2Image. Once you choose the right model and workflow, you can do anything with ControlNet. I am not just saying it - I have done it myself. Those are things that are worth learning. πŸ™‚

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RodS Online Now!

1:29PM | Sat, 30 December 2023

It's been a while since I've seen a good NVIATWAS! This one is outstanding!

Ken1171_Designs

4:36PM | Sat, 30 December 2023

Thank you! This was a great way to revitalize old contents. Used V4 with a V4 pose (see image corner) and got brand new looks. I am closing 2023 with a NVIATWAS like never seen before. ^__^

cadman

12:50AM | Mon, 01 January 2024

WOW! Looks great! Would love to know the morph settings and textures or sell her as a morph & texture! I'd buy!

Ken1171_Designs

12:29PM | Mon, 01 January 2024

Thanks! The workflow I am using here is something new I have created this year using the OpenPose plugin for Poser. The way it works is I use a Poser figure to establish a pose and a camera framing, and then use my plugin to export it to Stable Diffusion, which is where the character and background location will be fleshed out and rendered. From Poser, I am only using the pose and the camera framing. Below is a link to the OpenPose plugin, where you will find a full video tutorial where I show the entire pipeline from Poser to Stable Diffusion using the plugin. Check it out to see how I created this image! ^___^

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/161157/openpose-for-poser-12

cadman

1:53PM | Mon, 01 January 2024

That's pretty awesome

Ken1171_Designs

2:17PM | Mon, 01 January 2024

Thank you! I have spent most of 2023 exploring this new universe of possibilities, using Poser to establish the character body proportions, pose, and camera framing, and then fleshing out the details in SD. This gives us an infinite library of locations, clothing, body morphs, textures and hair styles. The limit is your imagination. 😁

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MollyFootman

3:24PM | Mon, 01 January 2024

Great pin up picture as usual, my dear. I enjoyed reading your interaction with cadman, too, as it gave me some helpful glimmers as I continue to work on AI. I don't think it will ever become a primary tool for me, but you never know. I certainly appreciate all the scripts you have done for Poser as they really help me in so many ways.

Molly

Ken1171_Designs

4:44PM | Mon, 01 January 2024

Thanks, Molly! Having used Poser for 20 years, I was itching for something new to expand the horizons, and AI is just that - a tool that gives me new ways to expand artistic expression. It frees me from being unable to express an idea just because I lacked the 3D resources. At least to me, it has been a liberating experience. 😊


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