How can we convince this German company to cooperate with Corel to intergrate Poser and Bryce. Will it really come to pass that Poser characters will never be animatable within Bryce? The very flaws and peculiarities of Bryce make it the "epic" environment for Poser life. An entire universe of surrealistic cartooning will never be. I know the integration was not going to be easy. Glorious capability never is. My heart aches. -Gear

A petition is what we need. We are the users. They can not go against our will, they need us. This needs to be organized though. We need all the help we can get, so lets get this together. Tempest

They would probly have to get the two development team Together It would take alot of cooperation for sure. Hell meta couldnt(or Wouldnt)get the two teams together,and they were all under the same umbrella, I think the two going to seperate company's would be even more difficult. But I'm sure the two would like to shake hands better.And I remain Optomistic about things getting better but probly not for a while. Maybe a Patch or Plugin could help temporarily. Good Idea on rallying togrther on this though. Count me in. Hawkfyr<~~~ crosseing fingers

I think someone needs to contact both correl and this little German company and tell them whats up. I am by no means the most eloquent writers out here, so perhaps someone else might be better for the job. Tempest

We just started a Poser5 wish list poll at Renderosity. Poser and Bryce integration is a must for all of us. It's now or never, so we must launch a joint Poser+Bryce effort as soon as possible. Nandus

I vote tempest to lead the crusade. Hawkfyr

why me, we need a strong eloquent leader, and more importantly, someone who knows that they're talking about. I vote for Hawkfyr because he sounds competent. Tempest (im just here for morale support)

Thanks I kinda wanted to but I wanna see how much time this challenge forum and gallery is going to take up. But .How bout maybe starting a petition thread first. and a seperate Bryce 5 wishlist thread. It's a start until we contact those who we want to see it. Like Corel.and Curious Labs. But thanks Hawkfyr

sounds good, we need someone important to start it though, otherwise no-one will listen. Tempest

Great Idea Diane, I have a Doctors appointment tonight but i'll see what I can put together when i get back ... Keep the suggestions coming all I would hate for us to all say "I wish we would have done that" At least we can try. and hope for the best. Hawkfyr <~~~ who's html skills pretty much suck..lol

Dr. Michael Cowpland: President & CEO Corel Corporation Mark Zimmer: Followed Bryce to Corel 1-800-772-6735 Corel Corporation 1600 Carling Ave. Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1Z 8R7 Voice Mailbox: 613-728-0826 ext. 1801 E-mail: media@corel.com -Gear

On the Poser side of things, please contact Steve Cooper at: cooper@curiouslabs.com - or call the information hotline: (831) 462-8222 Curious Labs, Inc. 655 Capitola Road Suite 200 Santa Cruz, CA 95062 -Gear

Thanks for doin the research on this Gear. I'll be trying to put it together tonight. Hawkfyr<~~~ been busy with kids birthdays 8 )~

It should be pointed out that Bryce and Poser have never had the same DEVELOPERS. Meta was only the publisher, and worked on the interface. The engines that drive these programs are entirely different breeds. Luckily, the original developers of Poser are with Curious Labs, and they have been listening to the forums. They may be open to discuss this. Bottom line is, it will require some serious collaboration between Curious Labs and Corel to make this work. That fact is a big wrench in the works no matter how much we want it, and how much THEY want it. It may take a lot of nudging from the users to get results. -sk

yeah we were discussing the seperate development teams in another thread,and I agree it" quite a tall order, But We should try anyway . Maybe just a Patch or a Plug-in would do for now. Hawkfyr

A plugin would work just as well, for the time being. What we really need to do is push for a merger between the two companies and then combine Poser and Bryce into one program. Now thats a tall order in my opinion. This on the other hand is quite doable. We can not rely on just ourselves though. We need to expand to other forums, spread the word, make it known what we are doing and invite people to help. Perhaps (and this is just a suggestion) perhaps Hawkfyr you ought to put your forum on hold in place of this. Perhaps I am out of line but it seems like this needs to be a priority. Thats just me. Tempest The great instigator ;-)

Not likey to put it on Hold Jack , the Team and I have invested quite a bit of time on this And I'm not going to let them down, but it's still doable, I'm In contact with some others in the community about this. And I'll be getting some help (hopefully). So I'm still workin on it. Hawkfyr

I figured so much, but had to try at the very least. I started spreding the good word around, perhaps we can hope to see some more supporters around soon. Are you affiliated with this sight Hawkfyr? Tempest

Renderosity? Not yet I'll just be a moderator for the forum when it's up . they do have they're hands full with other goodies that are coming to the site. But I'm confident that it will be up soon. I know Jack has been busy and Roy was on vacation for a while and had to catch up on some stuff. Hawkfyr