Oh, I'm signing up for this class. I love these. Merry Christmas, Dr. Geep! Thank you for all the nice presents of your tutorials. :)

You are quite welcome. and a Merry Christmas to you, also. ;=]

Dr. Geep I haven't had time to "speak up" in class lately, but I've been foolowing all of your great classes carefully. May I say that this is the BEST way to give away freebies yet?! Not only do you wind up with a great Poser prop, but you learn something to boot! A fantastic bargain in my book! Thanks you so much for all of your efforts! mike

I really appreciate the feedback. ... and you're quite welcome. Please ......... "speak up" anytime. ;=] Happy Holidays to you and yours.

I gotta echo Trav's sentiments. Kinda like teaching us to fish rather than just posting it for us to download somewhere. Do you have any plans for a temple and a sword? :-)

Merry Christmas! Are you putting the star on the tree? :) Someone already hung the lights!

It has been said ...

"Give someone a fish and they will eat for a day; teach them how to fish, and they will eat for a lifetime,"

Dr Geep is just tryin' ta teach y'all "how-to-fish" 'cuz he enjoys it alot! ;=]

Temple and a sword? .......... A little more complex, to say the least, but Dr Geep thinks it is do-able.
(He doesn't know any better! ;=] )

Maybe a sword .... remind me again in the future. ;=]

Happy Holidays!

Miss Posey said we could put her on the tree 'cuz she's a "star." ;=]

And a very Merry Christmas back to you, also.

Take care and be well for the New Year.

;=]

P.S. I have NOT forgotten 'bout UVMP(Mac). ;=]

These are classes I enjoy attending over the holidays! I've heard that the actual saying is: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you'll never see him again!"

I'm glad you enjoy them.

Re: "... the actual saying ..."

(I didn't want to "say" "man" in defference to the ladies that might be present. ;=] )

Having said that ...

Re " ... you'll never see him again!"

Perhaps one should "teach" their enemies how to fish, no?

Happy Holidays! ........ Hope you enjoy them.

I'm tuned. I hate fish. Lamb, make it lamb.:)

Thanks so much for these, Merry Christmas and again thank you...Sharen

"Give a man a lamb and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to lamb and you'll never see him again!" Happy Holidays!

You're most welcome.

(and thank YOU for ALL the excellent props that SAMS3D has provided)

A very Merry Christmas to you and Mike and wishing you both a healthy and properous New Year!

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to lamb and he makes a million bucks selling perverted videos!" ;] Sounds cool, geep. You bring the class, I'll bring an apple. ;]

How did we get from lamb to ......
(... nevermind, I'm not sure I want to know) ;=]

Happy Holidays!... anyway!

grins Merry Christmass, geep. ;]

[and I'm sure you don't want to know... let's just say I found this thread when I was deleting my spam, and leave it at that ;)]

"I have seen a rack of lamb, but curiously, never a rack of fish." old and possibly perverted African saying. Hurry, I need a stool to fall off of...scuse my grammar. Cheers doc, Q

... 10 foot barstool! ;=]

( a little shameless plug for the upcoming tut ;=] )

Oddly enough, I've seen a rack of fish: They were salmon being sun dried for husky food.

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"Teach a man to fish and you'll be able to sell him bait!!" - TJ

Sure teach me to fish now that you've emptied the seas. Sure, teach me P4 now that I've upgraded to P5.... This post needed an ingrate. :)

LOL

Just carping.

OK Classmates, let's pay attention! Do you think geep is doing all this work putting together these lessons just for the Halibut? And he's doing it over the hoidays.. I know this takes a whale lot of his precious time. Salmon should give him a "Teacher Of The Year" Award. Cod forbid we should be so disruptive! Mutton is quite as annoying as putting a lot of work into something and then not being able to share it because of the chatter. I guess I'd better get off my soapbox, I'm starting to Perch. I came with a Porpoise - I want to learn. [I know that was awful. I'm gonna go have my wife spank me and then I'll be back.]

... enjoy it! ;=]

It's a good thing you went off for the [well deserved] spanking - you were starting to flounder a bit. ;]

Q, you forgot to check the Violens box. - TJ

COL

Ah... I think it's time to quit fiddling with this thread. ;]

What's a matter Ironbear? Catgut your tongue?

Nahhh... I never have to grouper for just the right phrase. Just thought this was a fishy way to drum up interest in his tutorial. ;]

Iron Bear, OT: Where can I find an eagle feather? - TJ

Hrmmm.... not sure about an eagle feather per se, BM. RenaPD's "Indian maiden" has an eagle feather prop for her hair that's basically a flat prop transmapped. And there used to be a couple of feathers in obj format at 3D-Cafe that could be maped, textured and transmapped to good effect. There's also a feather pp2 prop in freebies either here or at 3DCommune, someplace. By... ummm.... cooler, maybe?

Gee whiz, any bird-brain wood know egg-sactly where to look in the nest fin one of those.

Just look feather up in the tree, and perch-ance you'll find one.

Don't get soar, I couldn't resist it. ;=]

OT (again) sorry: Iron Bear, no, I mean a real one ... Well That might be an Idea. I just got a printer cable and found out that my printer works really well, so I could make a picture of one print it and put it in a frame. Iron Bear and geep, LOL Eagles too rare around here - I was hoping to find one for a Lakota friend who has earned the right to wear it. Thank you and sorry for the interuption, - TJ

No prob, interruptions are the spice of life ... (or something like that) ;=]

Oh! Ok... sorry. Poser forum, "where can I find an eagle feather?", I figured "Ok... prop". ;] Nebber mind. ;] Best bet is to go through the registry of lisenced falconers looking for ones that have eagle permits. And then write to them and ask how the best way to go about getting a feather would be - mayhaps one can send you a shed primary. If your frinds on the tribal rolls [and if they're a blood who's earned the right to wear an eagle feather, they should be], they can write to or contact the Sioux tribal council and ask for reccomendations on where to get an actual feather. Anothe roption - send Sam Silverhawk an email, and ask him if he or Rain can point you to someone who might be able to help. www.samsilverhawk.com There's a mailto on his site. Earned the right? They killed someone in battle and took a scalp? In this day and age? Kewl! ;]

Viet Nam War Veteren - enough said.

Ah. Works for me. ;]

Thank you! I have emailed Sam Silverhawk.

Coolness. At least one of those avenues should produce something. I used to know a few people in the Falconer's association, back in my Renny days, but I've long, long ago dropped out of touch with them.

What does one have to do to earn the right to wear an eagle feather? Just curious. 1/8th Black Foot here...:) I know... I know. Q

Q,
Acts of bravery mostly - see Iron Bears post #41 at the bottom of the post. From what I understand it can involve
saving the life of another at personal risk as well ... but rather than misinform you, many Native American sites are
opening up on the net. You might find out more
here.

• TJ

Thanks TJ.

Q and Iron Bear, Sam Silverhawk replied to my email. he says "So you want an Eagle Feather,Huh?". He was then very helpful and refered me to the site below: Once you are recognised as an enrolled tribal member, you can obtain one here. eagle repository. So I'll follow up with it. I'm not enrolled as a tribal member, so I will have to get either his son or daughter to get the feather to give it to him. Thanks again Iron Bear, - TJ

TJ, AFAIK, eagles and the other raptors are all "protected species"... which means that it is illegal for us to have in our possession even so much as a feather of an eagle, hawk, falcon, condor, etc.. There are exceptions. Native Americans can still catch eagles using the traditional means (it is part of some ceremonies, and must be unharmed during capture). They are also allowed to keep and display and wear feathers and such. Licensed falconers can raise raptors (which is how we get a lot of the eggs for replacement and reoccupation of territories). Certain trained people can get licenses to heal and care for injured birds. One of my neighbors many, many years ago had a red-tailed hawk with a broken wing which he was caring for during its recovery. He was one of the people on-call to take them in. You not only need training and a license... but the personality, too: nurturing enough to calm a bird in pain but distant enough to let it remain wild and releasable once healed. He let me photograph it... from a distance. I am glad for the limitations. Seeing a golden eagle floating through the canyon is far more exciting than seeing them in a zoo cage. Without protection, there be would be little left of the wild. Carolly

hauksdottir, No, They can't catch them either anymore. There is a Eagle repository to allow for the use of feathers - they are doled out by the Department of Fish and Game. Buffalo's Son, Who is Lakota and Navajo and on the rolls of the Lakota, could apply for and recieve the feather for his father - I would not have to have possession of it. All I would do is insure that the application is delivered to the proper party and sort out the details. The feather itself would be obtained as detailed in the link above and sent to the son. And then there is a ceremony for him to recieve the feather. Sam Silverhawk was very helpful and very explicit as to what I could and could not do. Although it is permissable for tribal members to possess eagle feathers they can not give them to non-members even as a gift. Thanks for the concern, - TJ