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Subject: V2toV3! (Not V3 toV2!) Or what a week of non stop work can get ya.


Ratteler ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2002 at 12:23 AM ยท edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 9:18 AM

A couple of thing troubled me about V3 since I first heard she wouldn't be 100% V2 compatible. First... V3 has got roughly 2.5 times the resolution of Miss Vicky2, and 4 times the resolution of Lo-Res Vicky. Now I don't care how great your computer is. There are times when Ms. Vicky3 will be a little too much for your poor PC to handel. Like when your trying to get a gang of her into a scene. Low-Res figures exist for more than just being a bargain. Just like real actors have stunt doubles, Lower Res stand-ins can make it possible to render scenes you never could have otherwise. In a far shot, how much detail can you see? Another thing is...What happen when V3 clothes are prevelent? Sure Right now there are none. But in 6 months I bet finding new stuff for OLD Vicky is going to be a real pain. With this in mind... I've begun my V2toV3 Project. V2 is now... and will be for a good long time, an excelent mesh. Look how far some people have dragged poor Possette into staying useful. No reason Vicky2 deserve less. So what I've done so far... is re-grouped Vicky 2 to take V3's Joint Params and skeleton. Since the 2 figures default OBJ files are so closely matched, there was little trouble modifying them. While disecting the mesh it was easy to see Vicky3's lineage. The two meshs are a lot closer than many realize. As is Lo-res Vicky. There are few major problems. First... V2toV3 will still not be able to take any V2 Morphs. I'm working on a compromise that will give V2toV3 Vicky3's body while still maintaing the ability to take Vicky head morphs, but I haven't tried it yet. I do have a solution that would provide all the morphs of V2... but it would requre DAZ to distribute the file, and I'm not they would even want this. One of the benefits of reworking Vicky2 for V2toV3 is that I cleaned up all those greater than 4 point Polys that snuck in there. Another point of interest... this is exatly the same method needed to get clothes to be V3 compatible. When I get a bit further down the read... I'll look into doing the same modification V2 Clothing packs.


Ratteler ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2002 at 12:23 AM

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Sigh... Timed out, and then forgot the picture.


FishNose ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2002 at 8:06 AM

You wrote "re-grouped Vicky 2 to take V3's Joint Params and skeleton" Now that sounds verrrrrrry interesting! Since V2 is a perfectly good mesh, but the joints behave strangely, like the shoulders and knees for instance, this would be very nice..... :] Fish


bijouchat ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2002 at 8:20 AM

๐Ÿ”– keep us posted


VI_Knight ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2002 at 8:43 AM

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FireHorse ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2002 at 10:00 AM

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Ratteler ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2002 at 2:29 PM

I'm away from home at the moment. But before I left I finished a fully working V2toV3 prototype. She bends real nice now. I would like a little more feedback than just, ... , if you don't mind. Besides Roxanne, what morph sets are out there that you would like to see on V2toV3. Remember that the morphs are going to incompatible between V2toV3, so if you want them, I need to convert them now. Let me know what you think is essential for V2toV3 and I'll contact the creator of that package to see if want to participate. Would you rather have morphs included like V2, or in a Morph injected Pose file like V3? I'm leaning toward Morph injections, but it's going to be a lot more work for me. Tonight I'll get a rough Reduced Res V2toV3 working as well. That will give us 3 resolutions of Vicky to work with! I'm also going to try and create a face morph closer to V3 Any one good at UV mapping, good enough to make a V3 Map fit on V2 and Lo-ResV2, please E-mail me. Also... what the worst pose that Vicky2 cracks in, but Vicky3 has no problem with?


FishNose ( ) posted Sat, 28 December 2002 at 3:13 PM

Worst poses must be 1) arms straight up. V3 seems to handle that fine, V2 looks terrible. 2) heavy knee bend, and 3) legs straight out sideways. Don't bother with injections if that's more work - morphs in a stripped cr2 is cool, one can just move them over using MM4. As to which morphs - my fave is certainly SMMV. But Jim is working on Glam Vicki for V3, so maybe he's not interested :o)


Ratteler ( ) posted Sun, 29 December 2002 at 5:27 PM

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Updated in new topic. This one was too far back. Now have a Reduced Res Vicky with V3 JP's as well! Just have to extract and load a few thousand morphs.


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