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Subject: Environment Creator II


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dialyn ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 7:46 PM

BTW, the LightWorkShopII does not scroll to the right so I have never seen the right hand side (I realize its a small slice). I'm gathering no one else is having this problem so I guess I should give up on my quest to get it fixed.


pcbos2 ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 7:50 PM

Ah- I see the problem. D.. I didn't count on this. OK, perhaps time for an update then- very important: Dialyn, PLEASE post a picture of a module you're happy with, but it really MUST BE ONE with which you did the font change! I will now be off air for five minutes, looking into this thing. Hope you can manage. Good of you all to call my attention to this! Thanks! Yours, Paul Christiaan


dialyn ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 7:55 PM

file_44673.jpg

Okay. The Creator screen is fine with the smaller font setting, but it doesn't translate over to LightWorkShopII. Screenshot is with this message. How bored everyone must be with this saga by now. Apologies to all. I'm cranky but not unaware of that fact. :(


dialyn ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 7:58 PM

BTW, for some mysterious reason, the PhotoRead window does allow itself to be resized without changing fonts (which is good because it doesn't offer that option in its preferences). Funky, huh?


dialyn ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 8:08 PM

Oh well, I've wasted everyone's time by now so here are additional notes. The SunDial and SeasonMaker and Reader open up perfectly...no resizing or changes of fonts needed. So I have SunDial, SeasonMaker, and Reader needing no changes. Creator needed smaller fonts to make it fully readable but window would not allow itself to be resized. Photoread allowed window to be resized to make it full readable but does not have option to change fonts. LightWorkShopII does not allow window to be resized nor will it allow fonts to be changed. I think I've covered all the windows, and all the possibilities. Sigh. Is this a Windows ME thing or a me thing?


pcbos2 ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 8:13 PM

Attached Link: http://www.pcbos.nl

Dialyn and everybody,

I reproduced the problem. It is your videocard!
If you set the lettertypes to large, you're damned (well- so to speak) :-)

If you're wise -and have a sharp eyesight:
SET YOUR VIDEOCARD TO:

"SMALL LETTERTYPES"(96 dpi)

If your eyesight is too poor for this: this is what I can do for you- and the others. I will write a programlet that allows you to set the windowsize. It's going to be dirty and primitive, but the good thing is, that after that, EC will start each time at the window size you've chosen-
otherwise you'ld have to set it each time, and that's not a good thing to have.

I will post a message on the forum when I'm ready- also check DAZ for updates.

Does this sound OK? Pity of my careful layout of course, but there you are. Never thought of this possibility.

Oh, and Microsoft: I was wrong. It wasn't your fault. I love you in fact.
Many thanks, Dialyn and others: I learned something new again this night. It will never, never stop...

Oh dear. Am not gonna see my bed tonight. Have to visit only some Art dealers this weekend, so I suppose it isn't too bad. Well, cheers everybody! paul Christiaan


pcbos2 ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 8:17 PM

By the way, PhotoReader allows itself to be resized, because it automatically adapts itself to the size of the image loaded- up to a certain point. Again, it's the lettertype setting of your videocard, nothing else. And you didn't waste my time at all. Cheerio, Paul Christiaan


dialyn ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 8:20 PM

Just out of curiosity, how did it happen that the Photoread window is the only one that allows itself to be resized? Just one of those things, I guess. Hope you don't become sleepless over this. It does work overall. I'm not unhappy with the product. I'm just sort of the kind of person who is able to find the cherry with a pit in it if given a bushel of cherries to choose from. Take care and have a good night.


dialyn ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 8:21 PM

Ooops....cross posted. Sorry. You gave the answer while I was asking the question. Thanks!


dialyn ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 8:23 PM

P.S. the Delete all Lights window lets its window be resized too. You got to love it. :)


fauve ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 8:48 PM

file_44674.jpg

If everyone can stand it, one more picture. This is after playing with the various tools all day -- the finished image is going to be larger and will be postworked, but I wanted to show this render because it's straight out of Poser, no postwork at all.

EC II helped me get so close to the look I was imagining for the picture -- in terms of hue, softness, lighting effects, etc -- that when I do postwork, all I'll need to do is smooth up the figure joints and some of the folds in the cloth, and then "dirty" up the stone and wood surfaces.

I can still hardly believe I got this look straight out of Poser. Good Lord, I feel like Jan Vermeer! :)


dialyn ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 8:51 PM

Oh, that is lovely! Good job. :) Thank you so much for posting it. (I was getting as tired as everyone else of myh silly screenshots.)


pcbos2 ( ) posted Thu, 06 February 2003 at 10:59 PM

Attached Link: http://www.pcbos.nl

Great Fauve! If I might make a suggestion: if you would add a bit of red to the Bounce Lights, then take their Brightness back, you 'ld get a "dirtying" feel without postwork! Experimenting with the "Saturation" slider in the Light WorkShop can also give some good result. And everybody else: The promised Light Sets can be found in the ProPack Section of the Free Stuff area, and on my site, the download page. 27 different light sets- (the one with the moonscene I posted here, different moonshines and Bounces I'm VERY curious what you're gonna make with it!! Enjoy, Paul Christiaan


ming ( ) posted Fri, 07 February 2003 at 5:02 AM

3 minutes to render a single figure !! No thank you.


Momcat ( ) posted Fri, 07 February 2003 at 5:45 AM

We're talking about P5 here. 3 minutes for ANY render is rocket speed >^_~


dialyn ( ) posted Fri, 07 February 2003 at 9:57 AM

Yeah, I would say 3 minutes in Poser 5 isn't all that bad. Poser 5 is the Zen of software...you have time to meditate and you can't rush the results.


pcbos2 ( ) posted Fri, 07 February 2003 at 11:16 AM

Dialyn, JClaever,

and perhaps some others: as promised, I wrote a utility that does the following:

  1. It sets the Fonts in ECII -for ANY module except the PhotoReader. It does so in a much simpler way than by the "Change Font" menu item- I saw Dialyn had some difficulty with that, so I wrote it in.

2)-But treat this ONLY as a final resort if all else fails:
it CHANGES the modules themselves, and can make them resizable - if you choose.

It would be best if you would set your videocard to the standard, small lettertypes (96 dpi); but if you can't, because then you don't see too well:

here is the tool for you. I included a small tutorial. There is also an inline helpfile. Read it carefully, and follow it step-by step. You only have to do it once, thereafter the modules will remember.
To be found in the ProPack section here at Renderosity, later at my site and DAZ's.

Hope this helps?

Gonna find my bed soon - will be gone for the weekend.

Cheers everybody, and enjoy rendering!

Paul Christiaan


dialyn ( ) posted Fri, 07 February 2003 at 1:04 PM

It works! Thank you. Just be sure if you use the tool that you have the module selected that you want to change. To change the module, click on the little file folder to the right of the EXIT button. Works beautifully. I can see the whole window now. :)


ming ( ) posted Fri, 07 February 2003 at 11:18 PM

I say again...3 minutes...no thank you !


Momcat ( ) posted Fri, 07 February 2003 at 11:51 PM

Suit yourself.


Momcat ( ) posted Fri, 07 February 2003 at 11:53 PM

Know what else? You can save your EC2 creations to your P4 lights folder. I find that P4 renders faster in P4 than in P5.


pcbos2 ( ) posted Sat, 08 February 2003 at 5:03 AM

Attached Link: http://www.pcbos.nl

Dialyn, I'm glad it works for you. I wrote it fast, but it's save- as long as you take care and follow the instructions step-by-step.

And it's also something I'll keep in mind for the next project; release the project in a large and in a small version, enclose own fonts, that kind of thing.

Something else: would you be so kind as to alert other users of the problem-with NOT-seeing- the-RED- Question -Mark, and how to solve it?
I mean - if you CAN'T read the helpfiles because you can't get to the helpmenu, ECII gets more difficult than she should.

Well, I'm off, and for my paintings this time.

Will be back again next week.

Have a good weekend and enjoy rendering everybody!

Cheerio,

Paul Christiaan


sandoppe ( ) posted Sat, 08 February 2003 at 10:50 PM

This has been a most entertaining thread! I came to learn what ECII was and does and I certainly did! Thank you dialyn, Paul and all! Tomorrow if not tonight I will purchase it and grab that little gadget Paul made...just in case my XP does a ME :) I simply have to find all the ways I can to make up for the fact that I cannot use Poser 5 with Vue d'Esprit :) And Momcat...you are right....if it can do anything in 3 minutes in Poser 5, it's gotta be good! :) I wonder....since this does not use the Poser lights, does it also solve the problem that Poser 5 has with some third party lights (where you have to turn off the depth mapping and use ray trace to keep from freezing up)???


pcbos2 ( ) posted Tue, 11 February 2003 at 9:41 AM

Attached Link: http://www.pcbos.nl

Hi Sandoppe,

ECII works (in Poser 5, that is), with it's own sort of lights. It creates those, not import them. Try and create a small Environment ("QUICK" for the reflection lights, and so on- read the inline Help files) OVER those third party lights, then do a render with DRAFTS settings to keep down time.
See what happens, and if the result is worthwhile. Personally, I would use just ECII to get best result, but I can imagine using a spotlight or two for extra drama, so to speak.

Let us know how you're going on, I'm interested!

Cheerio,

paul Christiaan


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