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Subject: Why was my "song-tranlation" by Alain Souchon erased ?


-Klaus ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 12:47 PM · edited Wed, 13 November 2024 at 2:20 AM

Adms haven't warned me about whether or not I was violating the copyrights of the author, which would not be truth.... (Ican send you his approval, but he's say you just bore him. Anyway, why do Americans have to care of a french singer's copyrights...and if he gave me HIS copyright...I am sure he does care of the America Laws... I called him on thephone. You know, it's not because you are Americans that you are noday at all imposing your laws and rules to the world... _I find this policy of silently "stealthly" shutting people up, because "I don't want to talk about it" a little bit shorty, (I am talking to my friend Porky only)This policy Keep this site for Americans and close it to strangers. _ I would like to see my own words (with the Courtesy of my cousin & friend Brother Alain Souchon writer of this song_he doesn't care at all if his words are better known, he said" at least, those guys can look in theirmirror and see what they really look like..." with his sad smile... too harsh, or are USA become a hideous dictatorship ? Aloow me a privatejoke: We both ask this question here... In this case, we will send you the USW soldiers for YOUR D-Day...!!!(kidding...) I's just like to see my posting appear again on this "writer" forum, or at least know WHY it has disappeared. Silence is too easy. Give me an expalination, although I know you wanna find a pretext to ban me, might ?...I f you only knew... Thanks. Or either, yo ugive me a relevant explaination, at least..is the law of silence silent ? the rest of the world doesn't think so. They are now THE big brothers and they watching you...you might not LOL, but the world , it does and they do. "It will be "as you wish"...until the day.... Bye bye, please explain me why my transaltion diappeared, I'd like to answer. Thanks. Hhee, in the Writer Forum... It would "prose" as you say... do you knoe what it means in french slang....??? Thanks in advance for an explaination.


Shoshanna ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 2:56 PM

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Crescent ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 3:02 PM

Attached Link: http://www.britannica.com/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=prose

It was moved to the OT Forum because it wasn't appropriate for this forum. This forum is about writing new, original stories and poems, not translating songs other people's songs from another language. Since you asked, I am well aware of the meaning of the word "Prose," thank you very much. **Prose:** 1 a : the ordinary language people use in speaking or writing b : a literary medium distinguished from poetry especially by its greater irregularity and variety of rhythm and its closer correspondence to the patterns of everyday speech Saying that I am playing "Big Brother" because I moved the post to a more appropriate forum, where more people saw it and commented on it, is very insulting. Implying that I am bigoted against non-U.S. people because I moved a post is also quite insulting. I am from the U.S., that much is true. I read/write 2 languages, have a minor in Spanish history and have studied and traveled outside the U.S. so I do not take well to being told that I am against non-U.S. people. And, since you were banned from this site, why are you back? Crescent Writers' Forum Moderator


Crescent ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 3:18 PM

I take the last part back. You're implying that you're about to be banned, and merely hinting that you've been banned before. With the tortured grammar, which has a tendency to disappear at convenient times, it seemed like you were outright admitting to having been banned before. If you feel that you have been greviously wronged by having a post moved - not deleted but moved, you are more than welcome to contact the site admins or the site owners and file a formal complaint against me. I am the only moderator for this forum and I freely admit that I was the one who moved the post. Crescent Writers' Forum Moderator


Moebius87 ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 4:45 PM

Well done, Crescent. -Klaus, I'm not an American and have no problems with Americans, or with anyone else for that matter. I am also trying very hard to keep it that way. I didn't see your "translation", but based on what I've read I don't think I will bother. This online community has always tried to be about inclusion and acceptance, rather than exclusion and rejection, but there are certain rules that have to be followed to maintain some semblance of order here. If the forum moderator has moved a thread, it is always done with the best interests of the community at heart. The same thing goes if a thread gets locked or deleted. If you don't agree (which is your right), then either a question or a formal complaint should get logged. Ranting doesn't seem appropriate for something as simple as this. BTW... as far as getting banned is concerned, I don't think that a "pretext" has ever been grounds for this kind of expulsion. This site has a pretty clear TOS, and there are rules of conduct, breaking the rules is pretty much like asking for it. No pretext involved. You had a thread, it got moved, you want to know why - ask. Doesn't cost anything to ask nicely, does it? I hope you can clear things up without stirring up some unpleasant feelings uneccessarily. - M

Mind Over Matter
"If you don't mind, then it don't matter."


PunkClown ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 6:53 PM

Klaus - I am also not American. Could it be that you are operating with a few inaccurate assumptions about this site? I agree with Moebius, it doesn't cost anything to be polite. :-)>


-Klaus ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 8:58 PM

I just understand that it has ben erased: I don't waned it to be posted in OT forum: I posted in"Writers forum" on Purpose, or,either, can one of you make it rhyme...in American ? Try to do it from Am language to Ferman or french...after doing that you can decide... _I just think you are sad...


-Klaus ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 10:02 PM

If Americans weren't educated and "opened to strangers", they would ignore what the most famous "poems in prose" exist in our European "second rate countries"'s Littereature.In arabic litteature too, here you have a lot of wonderful American writers writign poeams in prose" Tenessee Williams,and so on...... So, and therefore, becaus they are intelligent, Americans would not be that fallacious to forget that what I say is true (bout "poems in prose exist", and then put my translated song (Courtesy of Mr. Alain Souchon, Author), my cousin, my"poem in prose" back in this "Writers-forum and not give me the "dictionary" joke, only because you ARE educated. Never heard of the famous German & fench, italian, and so on...: 'Poems in prose'??!! Plese, don't be ridiculous, this translation was erased for political reasons: Because it is anti-war ! Have, please the 'decency' of being honest. Thanks a lot to the Adms. I am in my strict right,you would lose in ANY world Court against me, at any rate, and in any cases. Thanks to understand. Put it back, and let's forget this sad mistake...I need this text do you think I've been working for you for nothing for so long ? No way ! Thanks to all to finally agree with me.


-Klaus ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 10:11 PM

Are you kiiding theworls and for how long there ? You ask an "old second rate country"'s guy to be polite after Ari Fleisher and Ri=umsfeld racist insults Why "Polite" ? Who were insulting our countries ??? Do not wait any thankfulness, do like your president: Pray ! LOL!


Crescent ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 10:11 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/index.ez?viewLink=385

It was not relevant for this forum so it was moved. Yours isn't the first post on this site to be moved, and it probably won't be the last. It doesn't happen that often, but it does happen. That's all there is to it. There is no conspiracy, no anti-European, anti-Asian, anti-anything about it. Out of 448 threads posted to this forum, only 1 has been moved that I am aware of. You've posted at least 3 threads here that I can remember, and only 1 was moved, so I don't think any charges of bias against you are valid. If you keep insulting me or other moderators at this site, you will give me reason to be biased against you. Again, if you feel you have a valid complaint against me, you are free to contact the administrators or the site owners. The link above takes you to the Contact Information page.


boodah30 ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 10:14 PM

This is a ridiculous strand and should be eradicated.


Crescent ( ) posted Fri, 07 March 2003 at 10:35 PM

-Klaus, I am being honest. I stated my reasons; I stand by my decision. If you do not accept my reasons, you can contact the admins or site owners and argue your case. If they agree with you, the thread will be moved back. I would accept their decision and not move the thread again. If the thread continues to devolve, then it will be locked. I try very hard to be fair and do not lock threads until they're at the point of no return. This one is fast approaching.


pakled ( ) posted Wed, 12 March 2003 at 10:08 AM

Klaus..there's nothing wrong with the OT forum..as a regular there, I see threads 'pop in' from almost every other forum, at one point or another. I may be wrong in saying this, but I think one of the points of this Writer's forum is to display your own writings, poems, lyrics, or whatever. Your message is probably waiting over in OT right now. We get folks from all over in here, and as long as it doesn't get too mean, or too personal, everyone has fun. Just treat people the way you want to be treated.
I can't change the government here (well, at least not until the Primaries..;), but if you have a problem with them, they have web sites..we're not part of that. Most of us are here to just put out some art, or writing, and see if it's good. Noone's out to get you or anything like that..so relax and enjoy..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


boodah30 ( ) posted Wed, 12 March 2003 at 5:06 PM

Well said.


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