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Subject: BRYCE OWNERS - WIN A COPY OF VUE D'ESPRIT 4


gebe ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 11:25 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 3:31 PM

Win One of Five Copies of e-on software Vue dEsprit 4 by Entering Product Survey

ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT FUTURE PRODUCTS TO WIN!

March 17, 2003. Beaverton, OR. e-on software, makers of the award winning Vue dEsprit 4 natural scenery animation and rendering tool, announces a new survey that includes a chance to win one of five copies of Vue dEsprit 4 for Mac OS X and Windows.

e-on software is committed to being the premier vendor of natural scenery animation and rendering tools. To that end, e-on software is sponsoring a survey for users of Corel Corporations Bryce. This survey is open to all Bryce owners. Five random participants who answer all questions will receive a free copy of Vue dEsprit 4. You can participate in the survey at
http://www.e-onsoftware.com/survey/.

Vue dEsprit comes with 2 CDs, bursting with 30 SolidGrowth 2 tree and plants, over 100 atmospheres, 100 different types of clouds, 300 materials, 250 high quality fully textured 3D objects and over 50 example scenes made by Vue master artists. A 360-page manual is also included. The most recent version, Vue dEsprit 4.1.2 features several enhancements. The Windows version includes geometry import of Expression Tools Shade 6 files. Mover 4, an add-on product for Vue dEsprit 4, is the most feature rich solution to import complete animated scenes from Curious Labs Poser 4 product.

About e-on software
Founded in 1997, e-on software was established to develop and promote the highest quality graphics tools with professional strength features. Established by graphics enthusiasts for graphics enthusiasts, e-on
software translates its passion for art into tools for the graphics community. E-on software is based in Beaverton, Oregon and Paris, France. The company has achieved worldwide reputation for its award winning 3D scenery generator Vue d'Esprit.

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e-on software USA
http://www.e-onsoftware.com

Bryce and Bryce 5 are trademarks of Corel Corporation


AgentSmith ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 11:40 AM

That's a cool giveaway. Looks like e-on is looking at buying Bryce from looking at this survey and that last question... AgentSmith

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dan whiteside ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 11:45 AM

Thanks for the heads up Gebe.. "If Bryce and Vue d'Esprit were to come together, what would be the most important aspect of the merged product in your eyes? What would you be hoping for?" Now that would be interesting!


SAMS3D ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 11:59 AM

Yes, thank you Guitta...this is really a good contest...Sharen


deadman67 ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 12:13 PM

it would be cool but i'd rather see Doc & Mojoget there hands on instead of vue


tuttle ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 1:03 PM

Mmmm... rock and vegetation generator... that's what we want. Those gallery images are rather good...


Stephen Ray ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 1:38 PM

Gives you the impression some might be interested in Bryce

Stephen Ray



bulldawg66 ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 2:29 PM

How about a graphics editing feature to convert rendered files from one format to another without having to utilize Photoshop? Just a thought.


Aeolius ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 2:33 PM

Vue dEsprit? Ain't that French?!? j/k ;) If such an amalgamation came to be, I'd prefer to keep the Bryce interface, tweak the render engine, and incorporate Vue's Poser import capabilities.


madmax_br5 ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 3:28 PM

just as long as bryce keeps all the advanced render options. I'd also like to see a simple IK system for animation, as well as model export. Also if the two were to merge i would improve upon the bryce terrain editor, not the vue one. Also, keep bryce skies and such. The only thing we should get from vue is the vegetation and possibly a speedy render option (is vue faster?)


pakled ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 3:45 PM

hmm..playing devil's advocate for a sec, I think it's more along the lines of 'if we can convince them that Corel's going nowhere with Bryce, and noone wants to buy it, we can convince them that their only alternative is Vue'..well, maybe I'm getting cyincal..should probably limit my visits to the OT forum..;) Of course, who's going to turn down free software?..;)

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pakled ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 3:50 PM

hmm..one of the questions was about a possible merger..hmmm...gelflings..;)

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picturemaker ( ) posted Mon, 17 March 2003 at 6:38 PM

I already have Vue - and much prefer Bryce to become MojoBryce Peter


bikermouse ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 3:19 AM

roger that, picturemaker.


Gog ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 3:40 AM

Have an old version of view and never used it a great deal. Future enhancements for Bryce, what about a decent edit mesh facility :-)

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Astride ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 5:13 AM

Most interesting...


Wombat ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 6:59 AM

They want to know what I would like to see in a future program? A weatherlab... and and and... grin... Thomas


Rayraz ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 7:32 AM

Aargh!! PLEASE, NO VUE-BRYCE COMBO PACKAGE!! Vue has everything I'd hate to see in a bryce clone! With the biggest problems being: a crappy interface, stability problems (at least it has them on my PC. I haven't been able to work on it for more then 30 minutes without it chrashing and me losing all the stuff I build), render quality that is less then bryce's renders, makers and users telling it is better then bryce even while it isn't true, workflow-problems, lack of flexibility. DOC MOJO Save bryce from merging with Vue please! Sorry for all the Vue-users out there, but I just hate using Vue. I can't put my finger on it exactly, but there's something about vue that makes me feel negative about it ever since I first used it.

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Aeolius ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 8:37 AM

so, let me see if I have this straight... 1994 - HSC Software ships KPT Bryce 1995 - HSC Software becomes MetaTools, Fractal Design ships Poser 1996 - MetaTools ships Bryce 2, Fractal Design ships Poser 2 1997 - MetaTools and Fractal Design merge as MetaCreations, Bryce 3D ships 1998 - Poser 3 ships 1999 - Bryce 4 ships, Poser 4 ships, MetaCreations sells its graphics programs 2001 - Corel ships Bryce 5 2002 - Curious Labs ships Poser 5 January 2003 - DAZ3D, maker of Poser models, announces DAZ|Studio January 2003 - Curious Labs restructures, terminates Poser development team March 2003 - Corel admits Bryce "on hold", Microsoft sells off its Corel stock March 2003 - e-on software, maker of Vue d'Esprit, publishes Bryce survey


Rayraz ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 10:05 AM

You forgot this one: March 2003: Ken 'Doc Mojo' Musgrave tells the Renderosity Bryce community that he and pandromeda would like to buy Bryce and tells that he would like to take bryce to the next level. Some things he mentioned are inserting the Mojoworld render-engine and material/texture coding into bryce to make it both instantly more powerfull and faster.

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Rayraz ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 10:06 AM

"terminates Poser development team" Does this mean Poser will not be developed further? Did I mis something important?

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pakled ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 10:21 AM

only thing I wish Bryce had that Vue has is the list on the side, where you can click on an individual item, and automatically be able to move it..would save a lot of 'tree bombing'..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

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Wombat ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 10:48 AM

Grrrr....sitting here with a long list of ideas/features for Bryce we collected before the decision to stop development. Pakled: I'm sure your wish was on the Brycefeaturelist. Thomas


AgentSmith ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 3:04 PM

file_50693.jpg

pakled, Bryce does have a list on the side, where you can click on an indivdual item.

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Erlik ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 3:38 PM

"January 2003 - Curious Labs restructures, terminates Poser development team" Well, not exactly true. While Steve Cooper and many others did leave Curious Labs/Egisys, the company has announced Poser 5 SR 3 quite soon. They also announced Poser 5 for OS X in June. And they announced farming out the development of Pro Pack for Poser 5. http://www.curiouslabs.com/article/articleview/755/1/43/ BTW, Larry Weinberg will work "on other products" with Curious Labs. That might be interesting and is certainly worth watching. And, AgentSmith, you forgot to add that Ctrl+shift+click on the list also adds to selection, just like it does if you click on the wireframe.

-- erlik


AgentSmith ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 3:41 PM

Exactamundo. Thanks. AS

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antevark ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 3:45 PM

Aeolius, u 4got some other things, too: April 2003- Doc Mojo buys Bryce 5 June 2003- Bryce 5.5 released, addresses crashing, speedier render times December 2003- Bryce 6 released, main features- export boolean objects+ metaballs, trees 2016- Bryce 12 sports a 3d holographic interface, integrates post-render image editor rivaling Adobe Photoshop 17.5 SE. heh heh, i wish


Aeolius ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 4:13 PM

"Well, not exactly true...." agreed...I had truncated my notes, for space. I should have said "most of" the development team.


Aeolius ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 4:16 PM

"Aeolius, u 4got some other things, too:" So long as the Bryce name and interface survives, I'll be happy. ;) Maybe Bryce 6 should incorporate a module from Onyx Tree, for vegetation.


deadman67 ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 4:26 PM

file_50694.jpg

this is a combo pic with a vue sky and bryce terrain and tree


antevark ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 4:30 PM

shudder hope they keep the bryce sky if they do merge


AgentSmith ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 4:41 PM

Probably not. Since Bryce and Vue have always been competing products, if Vue purchased Bryce, they would take anything good that they liked about Bryce, incorporate it into Vue and kill the name Bryce. Win win situation, they better their product, and eliminate competition. Why would they do anything else? Opinions? And, I also doubt they would incorporate the interface. Most Vue owners that don't care for Bryce are like that because of the Bryce interface. (Most, not all)

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antevark ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 4:45 PM

hmm.... maybe a switch in the prefs? fully customizable interface? 3d holographic interface? ok, kidding bout the last one, BUT LETS BURN DOWN VUE'S HQ IF THEY MERGE!!!


Meshbox ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 6:36 PM

I just got Bryce 5, but Ive been a Vue owner since the last version - Vue 3. I dont have Mojoworld -- I need a world with trees and plants. Doc Mojo seems like he does not have any money to buy Bryce anyway. If you reread his post, he seems to be most interested in the Bryce brand anyway. That doesnt sound altruistic to me. I know e-on upgraded Vue 3 to Vue 4 almost entirely from what they heard from users. It was a great upgrade! If e-on bought Bryce, they would be hurting their own new customers by scraping Bryce. Thats probably why they are doing this survey -- to see what Bryce users like. Im not sure what Bryce users like, Im a new Bryce user! Maybe if you have concerns about this, you should ask over in Vue forum? chikako

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pauljs75 ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 6:40 PM

Heheh... Now why don't we create "The Brycian Army" for the renderwars forum. It's mission: To uphold the Brycian way, and control the future of Bryce. LOL... I could see some ideas that might be funny and go over well at render wars.


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antevark ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 6:50 PM

yeah! the brycean army! anyone live near beaverton, oregan? That's where e-on is based.. GET THE BLOWTORCH.


AgentSmith ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 7:47 PM

Doc Mojo is Ken Musgrave, one of the original developers of Bryce. He wants Bryce because it is his baby, I don't believe he wants to purchase a brand name only. (just a guess on my part) Bryce users like many things, but the main draw or repulsion between Bryce and Vue seems to be the GUI interface. Some love Bryce's, and hate Vue. Some hate Bryce's and love Vue. Like I said, not the only thing, but the interface subject ALWAYS comes up. Vue forums here or elsewhere don't seem to know anything more than we do, so far. AgentSmith

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pauljs75 ( ) posted Tue, 18 March 2003 at 10:50 PM

Oh man I have a funny idea for a render wars posting... I should crank up Bryce and see what I can bake- er render with it... :)


Barbequed Pixels?

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Also feel free to browse my freebies at ShareCG.
There might be something worth downloading.


EricofSD ( ) posted Wed, 19 March 2003 at 12:19 AM

I am absolutely opposed to Vue picking up Bryce. Vue is so far behind there's no way they can convince me that they will take Bryce to the next level. But Vue does know who their competition is an if they are merely seeking feedback for vue 5 then that's ok. Oh my will they screw it up if they get it.


Erlik ( ) posted Wed, 19 March 2003 at 7:02 AM

Aeolius, if Bryce had an Onyx Tree module, I would jump on it this quick.

-- erlik


Wombat ( ) posted Wed, 19 March 2003 at 7:28 AM

Well, there is some kind of Onyx light included, the treelab. I think it is a good first step but need some workover to be totally usefull. Thomas


pauljs75 ( ) posted Fri, 21 March 2003 at 9:47 PM


Barbequed Pixels?

Your friendly neighborhood Wings3D nut.
Also feel free to browse my freebies at ShareCG.
There might be something worth downloading.


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