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Subject: Opinions please :o)


LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 11:20 AM · edited Wed, 27 November 2024 at 9:44 AM

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I'm working on a glamour texture map and face for V3 and I'd like some feedback just to get a handle on whether I'm on the right track or not. Some of you may not like the face (I think it's beautiful - but I come from a family of Italians gifted with larger noses...LOL). She has a much larger nose than most of the Vickies out there, but I think it's more in keeping with the proportions of an actual person. That being said, the eyes are slightly large OTOH, because obviously eyes fascinate me ;o), and because it's for glamour and the eyes have it...LOL. Her face is long, because I just couldn't stop thinking of Erte when I was making it ;o). Let me know what you think. This first image is the face with no makeup and no hair from the front.



LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 11:22 AM

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Oh, and I forgot that the eyes are actually my Fairy Sorbet tex from my V3 Eyes II pack. I was in a purple mood today, as you'll see from successive images...LOL. Pay no attention to the neck, it's not finished. It's the head I'm looking for feedback on ;o).



LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 11:24 AM

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BTW, this is a painted tex, not photoreal (obviously...LOL). This one has hair...just wanted to see how it looked :o). The makup is Purple Gold Dust.



LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 11:26 AM

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And now Purple Silver Dust makeup. The lights are my fave from Daz's Global Lights 2 - Fog Cocktail.



Blazerwiccan ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 11:41 AM

I think she is beautiful. I love her textures the makeup options look wonderful. I really love the Purple Silver Dust makeup. She looks like a strong yet sexy woman, one who knows what she wants and how to get it. I say you are doing a wonderful job, keep it up :)


Lelandra ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 11:46 AM

She is beautiful. I love the Purple and Gold or maybe the Purple and Silver?? You did a wonderful job with the Textures.. keep it up ;)


igohigh ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 12:06 PM

I think she looks HOT! Most of my girlfriends always end up being of Italian or Sicilian dencent even thou I'm from German decent, guess I'm just attracted to the look (ya, Hot-headed Sicilian + Hot-headed German = Hot...Romance) And eys, yes, I love a woman with deep, soulful eyes! Anyway, I usually prefer the natural look with my women, never understood why you women spend so much time covering up you natural beauty with all that war paint. But then again, when your all done; WOW! ;P Personally I like the Purple, but then again I guess it would depend on the rest of the attire..


SophiaDeer ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 12:16 PM

She is breathtaking! Very beautiful! Warm Regards, Nancy

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chanson ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 12:19 PM

She seems to look a lot like Cher to me...


lululee ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 12:38 PM
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I think she is gorgeous and unique.


tasquah ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 12:51 PM

I like what yuou have done with it she is stunning .


Lucy_Fur ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 12:55 PM

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The face is beautiful - unique and proud looking. And the makeup textures look awesome as well - smokey/shimmery. :)

I have some questions about her mouth tho - the area of lip-lines (the wrinkles of our lips) seem too pointed to the middle on her upper lip - like they star out from a central point rather than ride a little more vertically along the length of her lip. And the edges of the lip-lines have definite (but not sharp) edge inside of the mouth line. Damn, did I make any sense? L You can kind of see what I mean in the image where the areas are circled. But then again, that may be what your going for - in that case ignore me. G It just caught my eye is all - it may be something that isn't noticeable unless it's a close-up render of the face.


LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 12:57 PM

chanson: I was thinking when I was done with the face that it looked a WHOLE LOT like my mother (who happens to be nearly all Italian). But then I always thought my mom looked a whole lot like Cher...LOL. igohigh: Actually I'm half Italian and half German. I picked up ALL the German (blue eyes, blond hair, fair skin), but always kinda wished I had that dark, sultry look like my mom has. At least my skin has a touch of olive, even if it's fair, but it just makes me look jaundiced...LMAO! Thanks everyone for the nice comments, but is there anything you don't like about the tex? Booboos? Ugliness? Bad taste? LOL Laurie



LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 1:05 PM

Lucy_Fur: I see what you mean, although I used real lips to define the lip wrinkles. But I think they could do with some straightening and spreading on the bottom lip especially :o). And in looking at my own lips, the color and wrinkles DO actually stop before meeting the edge of the actual contour of the lip, especially in the corners like in the images above. But, as I'm sure I'll do because I always do, it'll get the once over again and be tweaked and retweaked :o). Thanks for the advice! :o)



queri ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 2:55 PM

I like both makeups a lot-- maybe a hint more for the gold and purple, but honestly anything with purple I like. I've been fascinated with the longnoses V3 can come up with too-- having been the long nosed person in a sea of cute turned up probosces since kindergarten. LOL If that's your lashtrans, kudos, it's lovely. Emily


Fashionably_Late ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 4:11 PM

You know the nose is the only part of the face that never stops growing LOL. Speaking as someone with more of a round buttonish nose, I've always admired the long slender noses of Mediterranean ladies. I'd trade mine in any day! :)

She reminds me of the women in Bougereau's paintings, with deep soulful eyes and classical beauty. I love the colors of the makeup as well, the sparkles are a great touch. I'm especially impressed by her skin tone, it has the appearance of soft powdered skin that's hard to achieve IMO.

About the lips, I think the intensity of the lines is a bit too uniform, making them look flatter. Maybe if you softened them at the edges it would create more of a rounded shape for each lip, if that makes any sense. This may sound crazy, but I've found that my old Anatomy books from art school are extremely helpful when working on 3D textures. Mainly because when you can see the structure of what's underneath the skin, its easier to determine how the skin would be applied to a face.

I'm just beginning to create textures myself, and I'll be thrilled if mine turn out half as lovely as this! :)

  • Molly


jobcontrol ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 4:28 PM

What crosses my mind - she looks comfortable womanish. She has everything what drove our ancestors south across the Alps - Emperors as well as tourists. Willy


Poppi ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 4:30 PM

she's gorgeous.


LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 5:12 PM

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Here are the lips redone. As close as I can come to meeting the edges. Better?



vilters ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 5:46 PM

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Sugestion 1. I'd lift the eyebrows a bit. They seem to be inside the eyebox. (brown) Sugestion 2; Remove the darker shade just in front of the ear. (Blue) Sugestion3. I would sugest a bump map to get some depth in the scin. (less plastic look, unless you wanted it to look that way) Otherwise, great. Good luck, Tony

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!


LaurieA ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 5:55 PM

Tony, I haven't started the bump yet...LOL. This is just the basic head textures. Still in progress :o).



Patricia ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 6:42 PM

She's breath-taking! A magnificent alternative to the 'no-nose' Vicki's that are beginning to annoy me no end...I've been waiting for some free Poser time to begin a classic beauty character of my own, and you've really inspired me. I can't wait to see her in an Erte-like fantasy render :)


Orio ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 8:13 PM

I would perhaps make the mandible some bigger - it's not that it's receding (that's ok), but I think, if you compare it's size with the size of the upper part of the head, it looks a bit too small sized. Especially if you measure the distance from the tip of the chin to the end of mandible. I think that this is what makes the nose look bigger than it really is. Try a test: in the last picture, hide with the hand the lower portion of head, just below the nose. When you look at the upper part of head, nose and above, the nose looks perfectly OK. Now move the hand away and in front of the full picture again, you can see that the nose looks bigger because it's the mandible that is very small. :-)


Fashionably_Late ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2003 at 8:42 PM

I think that made a big difference on the lips, she's looking superb! I look forward to seeing the progress. :) -Molly


Renegade572 ( ) posted Sun, 30 March 2003 at 12:58 AM

One word. WOW!!!!


Renegade572 ( ) posted Sun, 30 March 2003 at 12:58 AM

What's she doing Saturday night. :^)


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 30 March 2003 at 7:38 PM

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Well, I took into account nearly every bit of advice I was given. I increased the size of the jaw and mandible (thanks Orio!), I toned down the color on the side of the cheek near the ear (thank you vilters) and I changed the lip map and brought it out more toward the edges (thanks Lucy_Fur). I also changed the shape of her nose and eyes a bit and while her face didn't change much from the front, the profile changed quite a bit. I think she looks even better :o). I thank EVERYONE for their comments and help :o). Laurie



LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 30 March 2003 at 7:40 PM

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I also finished evening out the skin tone on the rest of the head and created some more makeup maps ;o).



LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 30 March 2003 at 7:40 PM

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From the side



LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 30 March 2003 at 7:42 PM

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I even created a mask just for fun ;o). Don't know if I'll include it in the finished texture cause I'm not sure if I really like it. ;o). Now on to the body and eyes! :o) Laurie



rain ( ) posted Sun, 30 March 2003 at 8:50 PM

Love the mask :-)


vilters ( ) posted Mon, 31 March 2003 at 11:11 AM

Hey, I love the work. Still think that the eyebrows are too low. Look at the side vieuw, and you can see the brows on the inside of the eyebox.(nose side) Tony

Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game Dev
"Do not drive faster then your angel can fly"!


LaurieA ( ) posted Mon, 31 March 2003 at 11:20 AM

vilters: I'd love to be able to lift the brows, but there's no morph available for me to do that and I really stink at magnets...LOL.



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