Hello, I tried the LiveMotion demo. It seemed to run ok on my system. (NT 4) I can't compare it to Flash because I never used Flash. Here is a example I made if you want a look. 3DCC
Remember this is the first one I ever tried to make. Serpent

From what I've read.. the consensus on the Adobe Live Motion appears to be.... Pros: Better interface than Flash Easier animation tools Cons: Uses bitmaps instead of vector Bigger filesizes No advanced scripting capabilities It might prove useful in future versions?

Heheh , cool anim Dill ... you and I should get together and make some shit ;-) Chris

Sounds like fun, what should we make? Ever make any screensavers? I'd like to take my favorite images from the gallery here and make them into a slideshow/screensaver that fades images together. Maybe I'll email some of these artists and ask if they'd like to be included on that? Each image could be made into a link to the artist's site. The animation I included in the previous post is made by shape tweening some clipart stars. They are made into a 90 frame movie clip which is then zoomed down to 15% and back to 100% over a 70 frame stretch, on the main stage, so that it varies which image appears largest.

scripting is the best part about flash 4, oh by the way at the streamingmedia conference a couple weeks ago they announced flash 5!!! I hear its got some actual drawing tools.. Long live actions script!

Bezier curves seems to be a popular addition. Challenges are fun.. might as well take a 'challenge' from a client though.. it pays better! The challenge that I'm issuing myself.. is to incorporate a lot of eager new modellers and animators into a project. I'll start a thread for it soon

yeah, but its not as fun, and you don't get much chance to be artistic with it. http://www.boydinteractive.com/demo/leadersu case in point.....

I didn't like it, even though the clients gave me a very wide margin of creativity. It is exciting the first time you're making money though. It also drags on longer than I liked. The client can get excited and wants more stuff. That's great, unless you would rather be concentrating on learning some new software. 'Freedom' can sting you though. It's best to have a client that is very specific about what they want. Here's a site that I made that was rejected: Burdine's Waterfront Marina My only instructions were: "I want graphics.. but I don't want anyone to have to wait more than a few seconds for it to load."

those fish are funny, did you use vecta 3d or soemthing? I've been itchin to get a hold of that prog

I've got vecta3D and Swift but I prefer using bitmaps and optimizing them as much as possible. I think that is out of 'fashion' though? Vector effects are great for any text effects though. The wave is made with a $30 dollar program called 'swish' ( I've seen the 'Beta' online version of a tool that does 100 different effects )

You're right though, Virginthirteen, That 'reject' example is entirely vector images. The Marina looks just like that 'drawing'. They recently made everything into 'Native Huts' My latest site is a better example of a site with all bitmaps and no vector 3dthrills (What there is of it!) I've got a vision for Flash and 3D.