Has any decision been made about limiting the number of gallery uploads? Er... I'll rephrase that to avoid asking the obvious ;) ... Is anything likely to be done about limiting the number of gallery uploads? I just posted an image, came back 15 minutes later to view a comment and found my pic at the bottom of page 3. I mean, if no f***er wants to look that's fine, but having it whoosh by into the Pit of Obscurity at 3000mph is plain depressing. I'm also missing loads of pics because being on a dial-up I don't have the time to trawl through all the images posted since I last visited. 3 pics a day might have been OK a couple of years ago, but Rendo has moved on since then... Actually, I didn't really post this to argue the point as I think all the arguments have been made, but I just wondered if anything was going to be done... :)

o im with you hun its a pain 3 was ok back then but with 1551 ppl on line right now as i type this its not ok i really hate missing really good art and i do run to like page 10 just to hunt one down that i saw 10 min ago so i would say 1 pic a day in a main gallery would work well xoxoBobbie25

i third that....i think limits would also make the quality in the gallery better, as well....folks might take more time on their renders.

I'll fourth that, one image means folks will have to post the 'BEST' one they have, this will improve the quality by default, Hi tuttle...:]

Hello there ;) ... Are there any mods / admins out there who might be able to help out?

Just as a point of reference, in many places Easter Sunday is being observed and people are spending time with family and friends. You might want to IM a mod/administrator who is shown as online (at this moment, I see AgentSmith audity clay Michelle A. online) and point to this thread, but it's possible responses may come more readily tomorrow. I know we live in an immediate gratification age, but I don't think a day would make a great difference. This isn't life or death, afterall. But I guess that's just me.

"I know we live in an immediate gratification age, but I don't think a day would make a great difference. This isn't life or death, afterall. But I guess that's just me." Who said a day would make a difference? Who said it was life and death? Where did you pick up on this extreme urgency? Don't feel you have to turn every thread into an argument with your sarcasm. This thread started out as constructive and that's the way it will continue, so please butt out.

no, no, nooooo....easter is a holiday with steps... 1. early morning kiddie easter stuff....presents 2. church.... 3. brunch after church, with many of the folks from church. 4. stopping by the early afternoon relative gathering, WHILE STILL DRESSED UP 5. that's it....i had a late step, today....dinner with boyfriend.... but....EASTER IS OVER FOR MOST of the U.S. time to think of work tomorrow!!! if you're still dressed up, i declare you officially "silly" :*)

It's 5 pm on the West Coast and Easter is still in force. And it stays that way, as far as I knew, up until midnight, which means it is still in place for many people and not just me. I was not being sarcastic. I'm being practical. I don't think enough time was allowed for the fact there is a holiday and people have other things on their mind than whether or not one or two or three graphics a day are loaded. I'm not the one tapping my foot about graphics being loaded. I could care less if you get views or not. Oh well. My point was only that on this day, when people may have their minds on other things, that may not seem as important as it does to you in this moment, and they may very well attend to it tomorrow. Do what you want. But being overly sensitive to every comment is really a waste of energy.

i lived my whole adolescent/adult life on the west coast. i was a child, who had Easter....and, was an adult, raising 4 kids...3 daughters, and, a stepson. easter is a morning/afternoon event....even my inlaws, who mega celebrated every holiday, wrapped up easter by this time...kids get TIRED, you know. i declare easter festivities over....on both coasts. that's it. how are you coming with wings? i have rhino and lightwave, and, i have to say....wings beats them both for ease and speed of use. and, speed is something that is important. happy easter is over....come on....a smile won't hurt you.

I hope every one who celebrates these occasions (or just plain and simple like to spend a bit of time away from the computer and with their loved ones) has had a good weekend... @ tuttle, I will move this to the community ideas/improvement forum, (as I think this is an idea to change and or improve the galleries?) and make a link to the thread for all admins and mods to look at and discuss etc etc etc... Smile everyone!! (personally my stomach hurts from way too much chocolate indulgence) :-)>

Well, Easter might be over, but the day isn't - having suffered through a Mary Kate and Ashley video, I have only just gotten my over-chocolate bunnied child to bed, and still have dishes to do....but I did manage to get out of my fancy duds and back into "civvies" by 2 pm, LOL! Don't worry, y'all, we are discussing the galleries even as I write this (and ignore the dishes in the sink)! ;-)

what dishes in the sink?
...I can't see them, can't see them, look away, look away....
;-)>

LOL! Repeat after me....there are NOOOO dishes in the sink....there are NOOOOO dishes in the sink.....the only sound I hear is a chocolate truffle egg calling my name..... ;-)

"@ tuttle, I will move this to the community ideas/improvement forum, (as I think this is an idea to change and or improve the galleries?) and make a link to the thread for all admins and mods to look at and discuss etc etc etc..." Nice one - thanks. It's no big deal but I think it will improve the galleries / viewing experience in the long run.

I will bring this up with the admin team and see what we can come up with. Thanks. Tommy

Cheers :)

One image per day only, and a limited gallery of 12 images -that's right, I said 12 images. A smaller gallery will force people to consider if an image is really worth uploading, which should increase the overall quality of the galleries.

what about those of us who have been here for years?

No, I don't advocate chopping people's galleries. I don't think anyone wants to spoil anyone's fun here, we just want a fair experience and fair exposure for everyone's artwork. This isn't really about how to make the quality of other people's work better - although I'm open to suggestions for my own ;) - it's more about the way that someone can spend a week on an image only to have it disappear into the Rendo vaults within 15 minutes of upload, buried under artefacted tits and ass and ice-cream mountains. So one image per day, yes, limited gallery - no no no. ;)

lol ok take to I would hate the 12 images thing yep i hate it i do it to my own i keep it at no more then 2 pages and i'v been here over a year but i really like looking at other ppl's gallerys this is about what tuttle sed spend 4 days to a week on a pic post it just to have it on the 10th page 5 min latter really suk's i really think 1 pic a day is good i if you want to keep the 3 uploades then make it one pic in the poser gallery and 1 or2 in the wip or one in the Product Showcase gallerys

ever hear that good old saying "If it aint broke dont fix it"? well the gallery aint broke, so dont fix it. works fine just the way it is, 3 isn't too many and isn't too little, it keeps the gallery from being flooded. The system has been working for a long time, and I can't see any "Good" reason for changing it.

"ever hear that good old saying "If it aint broke dont fix it"? well the gallery aint broke, so dont fix it." It's something termed "improvement". Anyway, thanks for the persuasive argument you've put forward. I'm sure the Admins will take all your points into consideration.

We put things like this to vote by the whole team. It's being voted on right now....

I await with bated breath (whatever that means)... thanks :)

Thanks for your suggestions, as tommy said, we will discuss in our next admin meeting. We have considered this many times and have yet to find a better way to handle image posts than how the gallery current works. I'll try to explain some of our reasoning for not changing. 1) New members are not always new at cg art. So, when they first join they like being able to populate their galleries rather quickly. 2) Limiting how many images a member post in specific galleries only harms the members that only use one type of software . 3) In each gallery category there is a "whats new", so you don't have to view images from other galleries if you are only interested in 3ds max. 4) there is a "How many image" setting, so you can see 18 images at a time instead of 12 (I keep my at 18) 5) Many members do not even post 3 images a day, so limiting to just 1 image post a day really harms new members most or members that have just branched out into using a new peice of software and want or need a lot of feedback. How many members prefer being limited to only 1 post a day? Most people when asked don't like the limits...even if they don't post more than 1 a day.

Hi, thanks for looking into it. Just my opinions regarding the points you raised - and I know you've probably heard them 1,000 times before :) ... 1) New members are not always new at cg art. So, when they first join they like being able to populate their galleries rather quickly. * OK, but one a day would allow a 30 image gallery to be built within a month, which to me seems pretty fast. 2) Limiting how many images a member post in specific galleries only harms the members that only use one type of software . * I only use one type of software ;) but if I created 3 images in a day believe me, they'd be crap, because I'd rushed them. Unless a person can produce 1095 quality images per year (nobody can) then a reduction in the number / day seems very logical. 3) In each gallery category there is a "whats new", so you don't have to view images from other galleries if you are only interested in 3ds max. * Yes, this is fine if you're actually looking at the Maya or 3DS galleries (for example) because they grow so slowly, but put an image into the Bryce gallery on a weekend and it'll be gone from Bryce page 1 within 3 hrs. 4) there is a "How many image" setting, so you can see 18 images at a time instead of 12 (I keep my at 18) * I keep mine at 18 too, that's what I mean when I talk of a page. Multiply this by 50% for people with 12/page! :o 5) Many members do not even post 3 images a day, so limiting to just 1 image post a day really harms new members most or members that have just branched out into using a new peice of software and want or need a lot of feedback. How many members prefer being limited to only 1 post a day? Most people when asked don't like the limits...even if they don't post more than 1 a day. * I realise this, but the needs of established members need to be balanced with those of the new members. New members are "new" for a few weeks. Established members are here for many years. And I really can't see how allowing 7 uploads a week will restrict anybody to an unreasonable extent. Also, I would be extremely surprised to find that anyone who posted 3 images in a day ever got any useful feedback on those images in terms of comment quantities. The people who get 10, 20, 30+ comments are those who have spent a long time planning and creating their picture. And most people don't like limits... well, there is a limit now - 3 images. So it's not a case of introducing a limit, but modifying the one that's there. And just some points of my own... 1) It seems that the current set-up favours people who spend little time composing an image. It is very depressing to spend days - or weeks, in the case of some people - creating an image only to have it buried under numerous default-Vickys that took 10 minutes to create, or 3 versions of the same WIP image with a dozen pixels difference in each one. If preference should be given, surely it should err on the side of those people that put more into their work. 2) As far as new members are concerned surely they would get better feedback on an image where they'd taken their time rather than 3 images that they'd banged out on default settings. They'd improve faster too. 3) Restricting the number of uploads can only improve the quality of the galleries. People will take more care, or only pick their best pieces. On top of this, images will get more comments as they will be in view longer, and this will benefit all members via better feedback. 4) If feedback really is an issue for new members then why not limit certain galleries and not others? For example, don't put a limit on the Beginners gallery. 5) Rendo is getting more members by the day and the galleries are moving faster and faster. Clearly the 3 image rule can't be maintained for ever, so why not change it before it gets to be a real problem? There are two camps here. One, people who post many images per day and don't want to post less, and the other, people who take a lot of care and pride in their pictures and would like them to get a reasonable exposure before vanishing into the archives. Either way - 3 images or 1 image - people are going to be displeased, but the former set of people can solve their own problems by either taking longer over their images or only posting their best. But what can I - and others - do to solve the problem WE have? Nothing. Which makes it slightly unfair IMO.

I totall agree with tuttle Perhaps the WIP and beginners gallery could have no limits, but is not included in the whats new gallery (or has an option tick box to excluded them) Then beginners and people looking for comments and posting 100 per day can so in that area, and people are just looking at the galleries to view peoples finished works dont have to waste time trying to look thru unfinished stuff. my 2c -LW

I really should have stated in my post above "the reasons we haven't changed in the past" because the way I worded it implies we won't change. We will be discussing with the admin/mod team and work to find a solution. BTW-I agree with your points and suggestions above. Thanks for everyone's feedback! :)

I don't see how limiting galleries harms anybody. They will still have all the images they make on their pc; they will just be forced to upload the best of the crop. Simple.

hummmm....there have been many changes in renderosity, this past year. and, from what i see, the things that were changed weren't broken.

I totall agree with tuttle some thing should be done about it i really hate hunnting down pics i just saw 5 min ago and what is the harm in the 1 pic a day in the poser gallery let the 3 stand but only one of the 3 be in poser galler 2) As far as new members are concerned surely they would get better feedback on an image where they'd taken their time rather than 3 images that they'd banged out on default settings. They'd improve faster too. your darn tooten they would xoxoxBobbie

the harm might have to do with this: many of the 3 post a day folks do their quicky renders using WHATEVER IS NEW at the market place. this issue has gone round 'n round for a long time....but, never has been changed....nope...we got more "galleries", and that did not help at all. i think the issue is money. the more cheeseball renders of vicki in her lil temple wearing the latest pose, face, lighting, and clothing...well, that's business. i don't expect the rules to change on this issue. although, they frequently change on others. perhaps, they will change when folks stop even looking at our gallery as a whole. a year ago...i was proud to give links to my gallery, here to folks who might be needing my services. now, i would be very ashamed.

Hmmmm I figure more images also means more traffic/bandwidth. It would be in Rendos better interestes to restrict it to lower uploads and downloads to reduce bandwidth expenses. -LW

I propose a NVIATWAS gallery!! There! Problem solved! Actually, I agree with Tuttle, there is a reason that the acronym "NVIATWAS" was made up in the first place.

a what gallery?

guessing... Naked Vicki in a temple with a sword? -LW

oh, I should have known.

Thanks for the feedback on this. We will be addressing this issues early next week. thanks tammy

I would like to see the 3 images a day reduced, but perhaps you could consider reducing it to 2 images per day per person if you feel 1 is too restrictive? You could always change it back again if you didn't like it. Shanna :-)

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