Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/polls.ez

Please go to the link provided and give your input.....this poll is in regards to the amount of images uploaded per day. At this point there is an on going debate as to how many images per day/week a member will be allowed to post. If you are active in the galleries you will be affected by any changes that are made.....

and a link to the Forum News &Team Contact Forum for anything you may want to add......

k, I dunnit. Do I get a medal or summik now?!? In the absence of that, I'll take a kiss from any cutie (er - female only, please) that cares to. (",)

my thought is that if you are able to upload 3 pieces of work a day, or even 1 a day (7 in a week), then you aren't putting enough effort into your creations. my own personal thought is all, my work tends to get long winded and take months, and generally doesn't look it anyways...

And here I thought 4 uploads a day was reasonable! Fict what if one gets on a roll and starts posting all of this stuff. You can easilly upload more than 4 per day by posting parts of your below the dungeon masterpeice. Thank Michelle for giving us a chance to vote. Bsteph

Just to make a correction for bsteph.....it's 3 images a day now....but there are those who would like to see that reduced.

mmm.. I've made my choice... but I see perhaps we'll post only 7 images/week... :((( Perhaps this will improve the quality of the gallery... but I think also this: If I can post 3 shots/day, I can have much more feedback on my work. I don't know...

Fict says : ".....then you aren't putting enough effort into your creations." Mike says : Bolleaux. It's not how much time you put into them, it's how much of yourself you put into them. When I'm in an 'inspirational' mood a pic (like most of mine actually) takes anywhere from less than an hour to a max of 2 hours. One of my favourite, most-viewed, most commented, rated 'excellent' pictures "Early Experiments In Matter Transportation" took less than an hour from conception to uploading..... I'm not getting at the time you take, coz your pictures do tend to be very large, complex visual works which obviously NEED time to be created, and are well worth it. All I'm saying is my personal style is quite rapid - I get the image in my mind, know where I need to go to, and do it. As an analogy, your pics are like hand built Morgans, mine are mass-built Ferrari's (lol - ok, maybe not quite!) but they're both exotic cars that look good and go fast. I still say 7 a week should be enough for anyone though. Even at my speed, I couldn't come up with 7 DECENT pictures a week. (",)

Here's a post that I think you all might be interested in. It's written by another Mod... AgentSmith in the Bryce forum....just his opinion and one that I agree with if I must say.... AgentSmith says: *I have been on the side of NOT to change the limit. Hear me (my opinions) out...(and be sure to read the ending) It may seem like the the quality would go up, and not to be mean-spirited, but I just don't believe it will. Restriction will most likely not make members upload more quality pics, but go somewhere else where they can upload ALL their pics, and eventually we will lose them as members. The "quality" idea is great...but most people take the path of least resistance, and they will find a site that fits THEM, not the other way around. You may say "so what, let'em go", but on my side as a Mod, that's a not good at all. To increase the quality of uploads, we would have to review all uploads and pick only the good ones (like www.raph.com). That will not happen. We will also NOT be creating a number limit of pics you can have in your gallery, ever. That has already been decided on. (quite quickly) Facts: I have looked at the "All" gallery for a 24 hour period (Monday). From what I have seen, the majority of pics that were uploaded were NOT from multiple pic uploaders. Of course, not all Mondays are created equal, but I had to sample from somewhere. Fact: The majority of Poser users, don't upload more than a pic a day, it's just that there are a LOT of Poser users uploading. Some definitely do upload more than 1 a day, but restricting those 1 or 2 dozen or so, will not truly slow the daily average that much. Now, any daily/weekly restrictions will have SOME effect on traffic, but just not to the extent I think some of you are hoping for. Here are the galleries, and their average number of daily uploads they recieve. (as of right now) Poser...........180 Fractal..........68 2D...............63 Bryce............57 Photography......54 Terragen.........31 Vue d'Esprit.....17 3D Studio Max....12 Cinema 4D........10 Digital Comics....9 Lightwave.........8 Mojoworld.........5 Other.............5 Everything Else..44 Total daily average (as of right now) = 563 uploaded pics. As far as I can tell, if the restriction of only 7 images per week with a 3 limit per day was to take place. The total number of daily pics could then hover around 350-400 pics a day average, which still equals 19 to 22 pages of thumbnails. (based on 18 thumbs per page) which is still enough to bury your upload in 90 minutes. *Every day will be different in traffic/volume, so read/take that with a grain of salt. BUT...now, that I have all that off my chest, lol. let me say this; The staff here are also members. We're here to take the (sensible) suggestions of you guys and gals, and put them into effect for your (our) site. And, if it seems that the majority of you want to try on the restrictive upload idea (and most of the ones of you who speak up seem to do), then that will reflect in how the staff makes their decision. Basically, I may have my doubts, but if y'all wanna try it, lol...I can get behind it for that reason, and help make it work. `Cause if the decision does go through, my nay-saying isn't going to do any good, lol. It's better to make the best of any decision, I feel. Either way, here's to a better Renderosity! AgentSmith

I agree with his points, he definitely seems to have thought it all out very well. The polls seemed to be leaning towards 7 a week when I had voted yesterday. I don't recall reading when the changes will be made if any are to be made. I suppose you would have the answer to that Michelle.

Right now administration is just trying to gauge what the membership wants....hence the reason for the poll.... Not really sure what is going to happen at this point...

understood guys. But my thought is that the people who want more than 3 a day, or unlimited just aren't putting any effort into the work. If you can post 10 final works of art a day, more power to ya, but I find it pretty suspectful. there are several users, well, more than several, who will punch in 3 news pics at 12:01am renderosity (pacific I believe) time. there was the idea that there should be a "Fine Art" gallery of sorts, where members uploaded their best work, of which they would be allowed 1 per week... why not always upload your best? I mean, I understand there are times when we phuck around and have fun (re: Mike's barbidoll sex fascination... we won't get into that any further), but otherwise, one should always put forth their best if they're gonna put forth anything at all. As agentsmith said, I don't believe poser users are big culprits. Rendering takes a long time, and Poser is catered to the midrange user in terms of price, which usually means most are running mid-range machines (somewhere around the 1ghz mark, usually lower I'd wager), which means LOOONG render times. If anything, I'd believe the photogrpahy and 2D users to be the big culprits. If we put the same amount of work into something that a poser user does, we're done, they then have to watch their computer render for 15 hours (man 3D's a bummer eh?). No fingers being pointed, it's just a thought. With a digi cam, one can go outside, shoot 20 pics of their garden, and upload them an hour later. Not the same with the 3D users who dominate this site. for this reason, I believe the members complaining about the quality of work being uploaded are looking in the wrong direction (the amount of images allowed per day), as it isn't really the 3D users who have the ability to do such a thing too often. That said, I don't think the 2D/photo users are clogging things up either. With a membership number hovering around something like 150,000 users, who gives a rat's ass if 400 images get uploade in one day? Imagine if every single person uploaded 1 PER WEEK, then Renderosity's server hardware would effin' choke. the other side of me says that either way, QUALITY is in the eye of the beholder. If you only want to see quality work, find the artists you find to always upload great stuff, put'em on your favourites, and check there stuff out when they upload. Who am I to say so and so can only upload 3 pieces of work a day? Hell, deviantart.com allows unlimited uploads. If you wanted to switch over, you could have yor entire gallery up in less than an hour. Still, i dunno. With photo, it's easy to get a few good pics on a roll, and put'em up all at once. I still believe though that more time can be put into the subtle details to make yourself happier. when it all comes down to the wire, though, in the end this is nothing more thanb a website, housing poorly compressed jpeg images, nothing more. This really isn't the real world, and should all be taken with a grain of salt. Members who bitch about the quality of work being posted should go elsewhere to view work if the work here sucks as much as they say. In montreal (and I know montreal is a big center for the art world, the same can't be said for most cities), there are over a hundred galleries on the island, and on most any given day, you can walk in, pay a few dollars, and risk seeing some really crappy art, or you might get surprised and say "Holy fuck that was good!" It's a risk. for that reason, my vote went with the 3rd choice, paraphrased as "I don't really give a damn".

as for "feedback" on the work, one almost never gets that from the gallery. Between the two devils, the forums are the best place, cuz one can at least ask for no backpatting (if you do that in the gallery, you 'll either get it anyways, or no one will comment). Ideally, one should show their work to their friends and people in their real lives, whther they "understand" art or not (the understanding part... that's a toss up on this site if you ask me). At least people can hold it in front of their eyes, printed/created and in their hands, the way it was meant to be viewed. and yes yes yes, sometimes things are made to be viewed on the net too...