hey tesign! you keep posting cool pics with cool models from xfrog.... is this an exclusive secret stash you have, or can you share it with us mere mortals? :)

Hi BSong, LOL!...no, nothing secret and there are quite a number of people using it, but on SGI machine years ago. It just getting on over to the PC but at the moment NT or Win2K only. Xfrog3 is a sorta "Plant Studio" 3D program and currently still in Alpha testing. You can view their stuff and download the alpha demo version 8 at http://www.greenwork.com It suppose to run on Win98 but have problem with OpenGL display coding (I am not familiar with this kind of 'techkieeee' stuff). Version 9 should be out any time soon. 4 further interest in plant software, go to http://vterrain.org/Plants/plantsw.html and read what's more around...if you are interested in creating those 'vegetables' :) I am still waiting to see a nice hibiscus. Seen one created by someone using Rhino though....really beautiful! As for the model, they are created by some very professional body and belongs to Greenworks under copyright. I am under restriction not to distribute them freely in obj and xfr format, however, I do have a few done in Vob format which I can share at the Vue Free Stuff here. As I do not have a web site to link to VFS for download, is there any 'donor' of space to help out here so that I can upload it up. The size of the vob is as large as 14 Meg :) Let me know. Bill Tesign

actually greenworks address is www.greenworks.de I have win 98 so I am waiting anxiously for version9 to come out. :) Marge

Ha!ha!ha!...www.greenworks.com!?...ha!ha!ha!ha!....I need some sleep gang :)...silly of me...lucky I did not tabulated as "www.greenfrog.com"....LOL! Sorry for those that made it to "Greenworks.com"....LOL! Here is a true story...someone posted help once in the KPT Onelist which regards to some key command and I acknowledged saying to use the "Shit Key" instead of "Shift Key"...muuuhahahahaaha! The second best part of it is that, she replied..."What "Shit Key?...I can't find it"...LVVOL!!...wish I have one though on my keyboard, do need it sometime...LOL! So all, thanks to Marge...the addy for Greenworks is http://www.greenworks.de Bill

hahahahaha thats as good as the guy who called up the service department for his computer telling them he needed a new cup holder for his computer the old one broke..... it turns out he was using his cd-rom to hold his coffee cup. It takes all kinds. hahahahaha Marge

It does make you wonder sometimes doesn't it? Sigh....the only fear I have is once Xfrog does work on Win98 I won't be able to afford it. If the $399 on their page is right it will fall into the category of Wishware for me. Ah well, nothing new there after all. Gail

Same here, Gail. Way too expensive for my pocketbook. Would take me almost 5 months to save up enough of my software allowance to get it. (Yes, Hubby limits my spending). KateTheBroke

heya; kate, you blew your software budget for year 2000, didn't you? like, two minutes into the new year. :) thanks for the info, tesign! i'll have to check this all out. :)

Bloodsong, I've spent my software budget for the next FIVE years already grin Kate

lol!! good thing your hubby isn't too good with math... ;) (just kidding!)

Well, to quote him "Oh well, at least it keeps you out of the pool halls" giggle Kate

My husband says if I buy software then I don't buy or adopt any more animals( I quess he figures it's the less of 2 evils)and I throw in a flight sim game every once in a while to keep him happy. (hehehe) and to keep him really happy I get up at 3am and go fishing with him (if he asks nicely and the weather will be sunny, actually I like going out on the ocean but don't tell him shhhhh) Marge

Ok, that tears it...I have GOT to teach hubby how to sail..then I'll have an excuse to actually buy a boat...heheheh

Xfrog is great fun ;-) Chris

xfrog is fun??? it has too much MATH for me! :( is there a short tutorial or something somewhere?

Just play around with the knobs..heheh..eg Chris

i did! i mean, i kinda grasp the concept.... if you put some horns on in a sphere mode, you get a round group of tapered things.... etc. but if i wanted to build something from scratch that i had in mind, forget it. :)