Judging by the recent posts I'd say a lot of you have trouble READING....lol. What is the point of offering a freebie that depends on another product if the product it depends on is no longer around? Those that laughed at that are exremely immature and would make very poor merchants. If, for example, you do a texture for JoeBloggs Super Sexy Babe and the Super Sexy Babe character gets pulled then your texture DOES get rendered useless unless you spend the extra time and effort to contact the person and ask permission to host it with your texture...I don't think that is unreasonable, I think it's common sense. And incidently every reputable 3D site I've been to does pull posted items if they are considered to have broken links in any way or form....so saying you'll go somewhere else is pointless as that somewhere else will just do the same thing when someone complains about the broken link you didn't bother to fix...lol. Most Freebies are to display potential products by someone who may be considering to be a merchant and make some money....it is VERY BAD CUSTOMER RELATIONS to say you can not be arsed to fix a problem because you are sick of the public whining - if all the major companies out there did that then they wouldn't have got where they are today. Public relations/customer service is paramount to any product Free or otherwise and getting on a high horse over your product will just drive people away, if that's what you want why bother in the first place?...lol.

sure... but I was wondering about 'vanity folders' I mean, every merchant I buy from has folders for their items, usually their name or the name of their company, then the name of the item, in the right Poser directories, of course. Its not anything weird or strange to put your free items in a named folder that's reserved for just your free items... I keep my free props consolidated in the same folder so people can find them easily. (hey, so I can find them easily... too! and keep them separate from all the other stuff that's not mine, this is important when I am creating things!) If you want to rearrange your folders and consolidate... that's fine. I consolidate too. But I can't know how everyone else consolidates, everyone does it different, therefore I have to consolidate my free items in the best way I know how... and that's to put them in a folder that's for my free items only, in the correct Poser directories. Every reputable merchant I've seen does this and I think Lucy has a method that works for her, but doesn't work for me as I find it confusing to find my original artworks interspersed with all the things that aren't mine. I would constantly get them mixed up with items that are not mine, and forget eventually where they are located. (she herself said that she 'forgets' where things come from... so it should be understandable why I don't do this...) I don't disagree with the rest... anyway as I generally don't like to distribute addons but prefer to do stand-alone items, I don't have to worry about Joe Blogg's model not being available anymore for my texture... g And I pay for my own hosting, so the broken links part is taken care of too. That's mainly a problem with free sites that break links to items with high bandwidth.

regarding rsr converter... I couldn't find it for a long time and gave up looking. I found tutorial after tutorial and always a broken link to the program. I found P3dO Explorer and I much prefer it for RSR generation.

Simple way to create your own RSRs - load the model/prop/character you want an rsr for, get the view-point, lighting etc you want displayed (always use the default window as a guide to what will show up in the RSR thumb) and then re-save the item into your library. You can save over the original in this fashion, but it is recommended you save as a new file. You can also use this method to transfer models to new library files you create. Much easier and cheaper than getting additional converters etc, don't you think?...lol. From my understanding RSRs only provide the thumb-nail view of the model you see in the library...the CR2 is for the model info...in my experience when there's been no RSR Poser just brings up a picture of a person shrugging their shoulders as the thumb - name of CR2 is displayed with that thumb - hope that helps somewhat...;-)

this doesn't help you if you have ProPack. g It makes PNG, not RSR. I save to library, I get nice PNG files. What I do is... render my item. save as TIFF. crop and resize image in Fireworks (or other image editing program, I like Fireworks as its dealing with PNG and alphas really well) Save as PNG. use PD3O Explorer to make an RSR out of the PNG. delete PNG. let Poser recreate the PNG file out of the RSR that P3DO Explorer created. then you end up with RSR and a much smaller PNG file.

Kanearoonie, dude, get OVER yourself! Wowzanoma! I can't understand a word of what you're saying about the broken links. I think we are TOTALLY on different wavelengths. The texture for the Super Sexy Babe character isn't a broken link; it's sitting there all nice and happy. An automatic spider isn't going to pick that up as broken, 'cause it's not. Do you mean that someone should be going through every freestuff submission to make sure everything is still available somewhere? Wowie, I think we've got something for Sisyphus to do if that rock thing falls through. And even if Sisyphus did decide the texture is "broken" and pulls it, I COULD go somewhere else. I could just put it on my own site so that those who already have the Super Sexy Babe character and want my texture can have it, and those who want to whine about how awful and unfair I am for giving it away can be personally told to get bent. I don't know I'd said most freebies are from people looking to be merchants. I know mine aren't. My taxes are complicated enough without adding in semi-hobby income. I just want to share the nifty stuff I made. So I CAN say "you can not be arsed to fix a problem because you are sick of the public whining". I don't give a rat's hinder about public relations. Of course, I wouldn't do that anyway. I'd just pull it down and say "Aw, to hell with every last one of ya." And talk about high horses! I don't know if you meant it that way, but your message can be pretty easily read as claiming that you deserve butt-kissage for patronizing FREE stuff on the off chance that you might someday buy something from said person. Sorry, dude, I'll kiss my kitty's nose, but I ain't going anywhere near your hinder. You might want to consider rephrasing if that's not what you meant.

I think the whole point of it is to reduce the number of steps involved in getting to use an item- bought or free. One step is nothing, 20 do add up and thats 20 by hundreds of items. If one person does the "pre-work", like setting up the file structure, then hundreds of man hours are saved. If all providers set it up correctly- then all of us individually save many many many hours from excess work thats not being used produtively.

True story: A friend of mine had a car with a clean title. He put up an ad in the local directory. Free car, clean title, needs repair work, but runs, just pick up the car, and I'll sign over the title. He got over 20 calls the first day. The first person that called made an appointment to pick up the car. My friend waited for him and he was 1 hour late. Upon seeing the car, the person started complaining about the rust spots, the dents and oil leaks. My friend said: do you want the car or not? He said: yeah, but I gotta put at least $1000 in the car to make it run right. So my friend took his coat, lock the door behind him and took off. The second caller picked up his car the next day. Just to tell you, even giving aways stuff nowadays requires such efford...

"Just to tell you, even giving aways stuff nowadays requires such efford... " Boy you're not kidding - especially when you're trying to give it away to some Renderosity members!

As i said in my comment up on #37 as long as all the maps are there and it works without blowing up poser I'll deal with deal with any other odd things that may be present in the file but when major texture files are missing then I tend to get a bit cranky.

Threads like this make me wonder why I ever make anything available for free. Ed <-- who's free stuff isn't in the free stuff, but it is on my site.

Swing by 3D Commune; they're more appreciative. Not everyone, by any means, but there are enough people here who feel entitled to be annoying. I got fed up by one of these many strings and pulled my stuff from Renderosity (everything up here now is under a courtesyware license; the rest is at other sites and on my own). Out of curiosity, I did a search for similar strings at 3D Commune, and at that time, there was not a single thread. Not one. I just wanted to go hug someone there.

I'm waiting for the first lawsuit to be filed over unsatisfactory freestuff - it has to be coming. People want it now, they want it their way, they want it without any effort and with no annoyances. The 'price' of freestuff is like the price of anything else, if you don't want to pay the price, don't 'buy' it. If moving freestuff directories around id esting up a significant portion of anyone's life expectancy, then maybe it's time to ease up on the Posering or use only commercial products. Must everything be homogonized, pre-digested and arranged for our comfort and minimal expenditure of energy. I'm not even sure that's a good thing and it's definitely never going to happen in this life.

Okay, just gonna add my rant about freestuff here since it'd be silly to start a new post... What I hate are the people that post free stuff for "Poser" that turns out, when you open up the zip, to be a straight .obj file. Ack! That's not Poser! Sure, I can import it into Poser, but then I've got to fiddle with the scale, tweak the textures, etc. I want some warning before I download it that I'll have to do extra work, so I can decide whether or not to waste your bandwidth and mine on an object I might not use. How simple is it- if it's not Poser, don't list it as such. If you want to get more downloads from Poser people, send it to a friend who -does- use Poser and have them convert it to a .cr2 or a .pp2 before you label it a "Poser" freebie!

I thought that's why they have a mesh objects category. if you don't want a mesh object, don't download one. g