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Subject: Naked White Girls


Milla ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 12:30 PM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 8:56 AM

Just wondering.... How many more naked, blonde white chicks do we have to see before DAZ finally comes out with Michael 3.0? I really don't care much about Vicki 2, 3, 3.5, 4.0, 69.. whatever... I think more resources should be put towards Michael and less on skinny blonde girls. Sorry all, just a bit frustrated waiting for my cyber-dream model. =o)


cruzan ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 12:42 PM

Here HERE - another girl/person who would rather see 'Nother Mike In A Temple With Nothin' On With A Sword..... rather than NVIATWaS Thanks for the smile and glad me not only person hungrily awaiting M3! I am blond blue eyed 45 year old and trust me - no one wants to see me in some of the getups I have seen! btw - did you see the Real Men Pinups contest? Some nice looking boys there but most folks forget about clothes... Ah well.... Again, thanks for smile.


lordbyron ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 12:53 PM

Milla, Although I personally would love to see more naked white girls (or naked girls of any hue actually,) (insert requisite knuckle-dragging smirk with drool here,) I, too, am a bit overwhelmed at the surfeit of 'digital" white chicks here and at DAZ. And like you, I eagerly await the advent of something, anything, that just might break up the monotony of NWVITWSitis--"Nude White Vicki in a temple with a sword" itis. (And this goes double for Koshini!!! Shivers from the cuteness...It's suddenly cold, very cold.) Do you think we can get the AMA to declare NWVITWSitis a legitimate disease? We just might have a case for an epidemic here. smiling to chase away the blues, --lb


c1rcle ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 12:54 PM

only kidding :) I'm dying to see Mike 3 too.


dialyn ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:03 PM

I don't have anything against Koshini but I wouldn't buy her, anymore than I would buy Anna Marie. They may be all very well, but it's just too much duplication for me. I'm not looking forward to two things about Mike 3...that he will be a memory gobbler equal to Vicky 3, and that Daz will be as slow about creating useful clothes for him. There's some inconsistency in their support for their characters.


Milla ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:03 PM

Cruzan: I tend to have that problem about forgetting clothes on Mike too! But then again, he does look so yummy with those muscles all ripply and that... .. nevermind. Basically.. there's tons of nekkid girls on here.. actually.. everywhere! Why not more nekkid mens too!?!?!?!!


ladynimue ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:16 PM

Yeah - equal rights for Neekid Mikes ;] ladynimue


SAMS3D ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:22 PM

Unfortunately, I may be the only one that feels that I would love to see more reality, lots of different hues, I am a reality sort of person, so perfect people is sort of not there for me...I would like to see average people, you know the ones with wrinkles or not so perfect features, of course I can add them with the dials, so I should not be complaining, guess it would be nice to see those kinds of features shown as the adverstising, but I guess it wouldn't sell. The only thing that bothers me regarding Anna Marie, is the EULA, but not just that, and this is going to sound bad... You know and I know that EULA will be broken, there is no way you can police that sort of thing. If you know it and I know it, why would anyone want to take that chance unless they wanted the exposer....know what I mean? Sharen


DarkElegance ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:27 PM

I agree {but I do have a problem with kosini she is taking over and..and...~twitches~ she even takes vickies cloths! ~plots the downfall of kosini~} I started to play with mike abit and he seems more versatile then I originally thought I too wish to see M3 and some figures that are not just white blonde anglo saxon typical playboy figures. I would love to see more ethnic figures with something other then tinted skin.

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galactron22 ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:27 PM

Although I'm not a fan of naked dudes, I agree with the view of our female comarades here at Renderosity, there are way too many Nekid Vikis in Temples images araound here, I admire the female form as much as the next guy, but if I wanna see a nekid woman I'll just look at my girlfriend (....after begging and pleading for about 1-2 Hours or so and afted buying her dinner. yes I'm wipped, and darn proud of it).

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DarkElegance ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:28 PM

er sorry playing with mike seemed abit...er....wrong sounding ....mike and I are not "that way" ~nods~

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dialyn ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:28 PM

You're not the only one, Sharen.


dlk30341 ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:43 PM

I would like see more ethnic people as well, with the correct ethnic clothing...tired of "white" girls myself & the whole sci-fi thing...would like to see some "normal" things for a change...not that all the rest aren't good. Vacation items would be nice as well...ie. African safari-safari outfits.....Space suit for astronaut these types of things instead of pirates/poets/Roman Empire things... Deb


SAMS3D ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:51 PM

whewy, dialyn, thanks, I thought I would be considered from another planet for speaking this way. LOL...Sharen


dialyn ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 1:56 PM

Sharen, we may be in the minority but we do exist. That's why I like your real life props so much....I really think there is great beauty in the ordinary life. That art isn't all about being gorgeous but being alive. That sometimes a wrinkled hand holds more grace than a smooth one. That may be just me, but it's really how I feel. Of course being over 50 might have something to do with it.


SAMS3D ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 2:42 PM

LOL....I am not over 50 yet...I do understand....I am having trouble with this Anna Marie situation....why tell me as woman we work so hard to show that we may have some brains...and then throw it all away.....are we just to vain? Sharen


rockets ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 2:48 PM

I guess you just have to know where to look if you want good Michael textures and clothes. Thip & renapd, Isop and PoserWorld have quite a few things for him and there are also good body textures out there too. The sad fact is that most people don't want to see pictures of Michael. I've made quite a few images using him, but they get a small number of looks and comments. Guess that's why Daz is not in a hurry to create a new guy...the interest just doesn't seem to be there.

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SAMS3D ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 2:58 PM

You know I saw a render here of Michael, and I will never forget it...it was amazing...the one that resembeled Gondolf...(you know the dude in Lord of the Rings) it was amazing and I am sorry I don't remember the artist...but it is here and just amazing. Sharen


rockets ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 2:59 PM

I think maybe it was by dalinise or maybe linwhite...I remember that image too.

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kobaltkween ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 3:13 PM

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it's a product actually. dalinise is great at making very real characters.



maclean ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 3:33 PM

I'll add my voice to the chorus. 'Yes!' to diversity. Even if I'm a male 'WASP', I still get fed-up seeing this endless procession of nekkid white girls. The only hope is this. Now that DAZ have the V3 mesh done, instead of working to perfect it, they can concentrate on using it as a base for a bunch of new characters that are different. Isn't it weird though? When I was went from poser 2 to poser 4, I was amazed that the characters had hair! Figures like vicki were unimaginable. Now we're bored with her. LOL. We always want more... and that's good. mac


Cyhiraeth ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 6:45 PM

Perhaps you should be saying "naked Caucasian girls"... saying "naked White girls" is like saying "naked Black girls" or "naked Yellow girls" and it's a bit on the "impolite" side. Besides, white is a description for bedsheets and corpses, not people.


xoconostle ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 6:45 PM

While I tend to agree with the basic sentiment, here, and love my wonderful collection of African, Latino/a and Asian textures for Mike and Vicky, I can just imagine what would happen if someone complained about an excess of Poser textures of any non-caucasian ethnicity. The accurate screams of "racism!" would be ear-splitting, and quite possibly the thread would be locked. While I'm not bashing anyone in this thread or anything that's been said, I respectfully offer as food for thought the fact that complaints about an overabundance of "white" representation is also essentially racist, or at least has the potential to come across that way. Again, not calling names or making ugly allegations . Yes, I do recognize the imbalance, and find it embarassing at times, but maybe think about it a little. I hope this comes across the way I intended, which again, is only as something to think about if you're so inclined. :-) (runs off to render nekkid African Mike in a Temple with a Sword)


SAMS3D ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 6:46 PM

LOL...:-)


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 6:56 PM

Agreed. Mike is my favorite figure and I cannot wait for him to come out.



PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 6:57 PM

BTW, that means Mike 3, not a freudian slip...



rockets ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 7:28 PM

LOL, good one Cyhiraeth and very true. My shade is close to #A98064 on Photoshop6 Color Picker...a far cry from #ffffff. :-)

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Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 7:57 PM

I agree .. I also see people that make textures of other varieties but I rarely see any of them in the galleries. Could just be that people aren't posting them. I know I have seen hardly any renders of my latest figure but have sold a few. And just so everyone knows it was loosely based on someone of hispanic decent, well at least the texture was. Later



maclean ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 8:30 PM

'Perhaps you should be saying "naked Caucasian girls"...' Well, let's try not to become ludicrous. If anyone wants to call me white, tartan, haggis, Jock or whatever, go ahead. mac


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 9:57 PM

I think the thing that is really frustrating is that unless you are doing pinups, people are really hesitant about looking at your images. It's almost gotten to the point where I don't post a thumbnail unless it contains a beautiful white woman (with the exception of my latest, which has a beautiful black woman). As far as diversity goes, it would be great to have more African American, Hindi, Hispanic, Asian, Polynesian, Native American, Senior citizen, etc textures. I think one of the reasons that there is so many white women in the gallery is because the white textures are more really available in the freestuff. In addition, just darkening a caucasian texture does not make a figure look more ethnic. Lastly, I'll be the first to admit (just look at my gallery) to getting stuck in a rut where it doesn't always occur to me to maybe depict someone who isn't white. It's just force of habit, but I'm trying to step out of it a little more.



JVRenderer ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 10:58 PM

Hey, incidently I've posted a Naked Mike in a Temple with a Sword recently. JV





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Gremalkyn ( ) posted Tue, 27 May 2003 at 11:00 PM

As a newbie, I am surprised that, with as many talented people as are here, that there are not more "different" characters than there are. Fill the niche, merchants! :D As for my own doodles, all of my girls (and guys) are white and naked because: I only have the figures that came with P5 and still have trouble with clothing. :p


lordbyron ( ) posted Wed, 28 May 2003 at 12:07 AM

xoconostle, Touche! Tu as raison! As a persistent voice advocating a careful use of language, I should have been more careful with mine. My desire is to ask for a broader spectrum of human representation, not to censure the appropriate depiction any particular portion of it. I will try to be more careful of my usage in the future. --lb


lmckenzie ( ) posted Wed, 28 May 2003 at 1:03 AM

I can't say I feel a need to see more naked Mikes but ethnic Vickies are definitely needed. I think DAZ is just a bit behind the times on this. With the popularity of JLo, Tyra Banks, Lucy Liu, etc. America is embracing a more diverse standard of "beauty." Unfortunately, Poserland is perhaps even more monochromatic than network television, which is saying something. Many threads like this show that there is a market out there but the response has been very small. I'm not sure it says anything but their first Digital Clone represents the blonde Playmate archtype which has been the traditional standard of American pulchritude forever. That's fine but I hope they branch out a little. Of course, they are in Utah which, from my experience is a beautiful state with friendly people, but not exactly a cultural melting pot. At any rate, there is a wealth of naked Mikes in the gay art gallery at R'otica though the swordplay may be a bit extreme for some :-)

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TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Wed, 28 May 2003 at 3:15 AM

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Regarding the "white/black" issue ;o)

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Milla ( ) posted Wed, 28 May 2003 at 9:47 AM

First off... PLEAZE don't turn this thread into some kind of a "racial" thing. That is NOT my intention at all. The term "white girls" is simply a header to catch people's attention. My MAIN POINT through all of this is that I want to see MIKE 3!!!!! As I stated earlier, I don't care what version of Vicki in a rainbow spectrum of colors comes out... she is still a skinny "African-American-Caucasian-Asian-Hispanic (where is Hispania anyway)-" chick! Let us not lose focus on the main topic of this thread. =)(Latina, by the way... NOT HISPANIC)


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