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I was about to ask that very same question. I have Poser 5 and didn't know if it would work with P5, or if P5 would actually do this already. I like the look of the examples and the cost seems low. Though it acually just seems like a new global lighting package. Interested in what others think too.

In my humble opinion, ten dollars for one lighting setting isn't a low price at all. (Check the readme file, that's all this product is.) I'm not one to disparage merchants, nor do I mean to in this case, but I don't see how one little ol'light setting could possible equal "instant realism." Does even one of those ad pictures look "realistic" to anyone? Perhaps it really is a beautifully complex light setting, but well, I'll just leave it at "hmmmmm" and be very happy with the many outstanding global lights I got at DAZ for a grand total of four bucks. Still, I'm also interested to hear from any satisfied customers.

IMO, the ground shadows look terrible on the product's sample pic. Certainly not realistic for outdoor use. While I'm by no means an expert, I have obtained good results just by reading Geep's tutorials and tinkering with the lights myself.

So this is just a lighting setup?

"So this is just a lighting setup?" From the product's ReadMe: Files Included within the .zip -runtimelibrarislightrenderR folder- renderR 1.PNG renderR 1.lt2 license.txt readme.txt --------------- Yup, it's a lighting set.

Dudes, go to Freestuff, and find Shademaster's "Render Upgrade"... Same setup, slightly better quality.

... and people buy lighting setups??

That they do. However, there are quite a lot of free ones available, such as the very excellent one mentioned by Valandar. SnowSultan has produced a prop/lights combination called "Globall", which is also available as a freebie.

Gee...

Traveler at RDNA has about 20+ awesome free light sets from spots to global covering just about every color. I don't know how the guy manages to find time to sleep.

Traveler went mad the other day & posted 2 packs at RDNA each has 50 seperate lighting presets & they're free, that's 100 light sets for 100% less than this $10 pack.

ps, I'm not saying Render:R isn't a good buy tho, haven't bought it yet but the example pics do look quite impressive

I think it's interesting that a lighting setup can be such a dramatic improvement to a render. I wonder how much longer the render would take? I have seen screenshots of people with dozens of lights in a scene. wow... I dont think I have added more than 5 ever.

Well, lighting can make the crucial difference in a render. One light set can make everything look flat as a pancake, another can dramatically improve the depth of the 3d. But I can't believe that one light set would improve all renders. And with Poser 5 I'm leery of globals with their many lights possibly crashing a render. Or at least doubling render time. I've had marvelous luck with Travs sets. Emily

The "Render Upgrade" in Freestuff is about 39 different lights. It increased render times considerably. But ooooooooooh, is it worth it... By comparison, many of the global lightsets in Blackhearted's "Proluma" light set are 24-26 lights, with a corresponding increase in quality and render times. Remember people, just throwing a lot of lights isn't the answer... it's putting them in the right place, like Shademaster and Blackhearted did.

"Render Upgrade" fantastic and free! but here's a tip.i couldn't get it to work properly on my system by importing the pz3 file.for some reason the lights in all pz3 files come out all screwed up.if it does the same on your system try double clicking on the pz3 file itself.this may screw up the way you have your interface setup but that can be reset,then save to lights library.

Valandar i like your shadows better than the others.can we have it? ;)

Nice Valandar. Thanks for the tests there. But it is a little biased I think though. Although I agree the default lights arent the best, your placements of said lights in that first shot isnt particularily favorable either. I can see by the shadows that no light is directly casting on the front-side (cam POV) of the dragon and therefore it way too shadowed. What did you use? I see one light on the right, towards the front... and another casting on his ass. is the third casting down? by the looks of some of the shadows, thats what im thinking. Well thats a pretty crappy three-point setup. To compare that one render to the other three shot that have, what looks to me, suficient lighting on the front of the dragon to ignite my cigarette is unfair really. But that first render will still look like crap no matter where you place those three poser defunked lights if you compare them. So im not sure what your saying there other than, the more lights you stick in the better. When I thought 'where' you put them was more important. Just my opinion. I'll check out some of those lighting setups and see what it is all about.

Your right I didn't consider the default placement. Relax illusions, please, you don't have to !exlaim! with me to get your point across. I though my point was pretty valid so I posted. Don't swallow it, I don't care, but don't play the thread-hero. :)

Paragraphs 2 and 3 of Illusions post was directed at everyone and/or thinking aloud, I think. I found it interesting. 3ncryptabl3_lick, I realize you're new here. You'll find this a very knowledgable and generally friendly, although occassionally tempermental, community if you give it a chance. As a personable request from one with no authority here whatsoever, please have the same respect for the knowledge of others that you would like for them to have of yours. One of the nice things about this community is that you don't have to know everything in order to participate.

I IM'd stasisxxx and told him about this thread, and that many of us had questions. Hopefully he will drop by and comment. does his superman thing, flies into a wall, falls into a trashcan so much for thread hero's.

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?"..... the ThreadMan do!!!

The blue shadows (also visible in mine) are from the fact that several of the lights represent the ambient "sky" light we recieve. It results in an "evening out" of the primarily yellow sunlight. Personally, I tend to use such lighting setups most often in scenarios where the ground isn't seen, so the shadows don't advertise the artificiality of it. And, sure, gimme a day or so to zip that quickie lightset up and give it a home, and it'll be in Freestuff.

The blue shadows (also visible in mine) are from the fact that several of the lights represent the ambient "sky" light we recieve. It results in an "evening out" of the primarily yellow sunlight The shdaows 'are' pretty crazy in those images. The lack of a yellow light,?, in pic 4, is what is making the ground shadow blue? I dont quite understand. Or does the plugin 'change' the shadow color (document) when using the light-presets?

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The light set didn't generate debate. The claims made in the ad for it generated interest, confusion, and subsequent opinion. Still, it's good of you to work with improving it on behalf of your customers.

You did not make the light set yourself stasisxxx, follow this link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12413&Form.ShowMessage=1282129

It is mine...

Somebody was mention 'proluma'. Where can I find 'Blackhearted's "ProLuma" global light sets? Thanks.

http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=5821

From what I've seen it's a nice liteset. Wish I had the werewithal to purchase it myself. But Shademaster's Renderupgrade is fairly nice too, and I've found that a good ground texture takes care of any ground shadow issues with it.

Thanks for the link. Yes, it looks very nice. You are right, it is a little bit pricy. I am just wondering what is the difference between 'proluma' of Blackhearted and DAZ Complex Global lighting set? [I have to tell you I am just a user of these lightsets, I am not an expert] For the first glance it looks quite similar. I used several times Shademaster's Renderupgrade it is very nice.

The product has been removed due to copyright violation. http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12395&Form.ShowMessage=1282131 Considering that the merchant was selling freestuff and appears to have other items in his store that are also repackaged freestuff items, I just say "buyer beware" with this particular merchant.

Ouch! I checked out that link then the other one, then another one. Scary. I didn't think there was that kind of behavour here.

It happens all the time

it happens too often, but 99% of the time it's caught & stopped before too much damage is done. This time money changed hands which is bad. PTB do the buyers get refunds or is it just their tough luck?

Previously, it's been tough luck. If that's changed, the PTBs haven't closed to loop by making that known. That's why the only things I buy here are exclusives. If I can get it somewhere else, I do.