Beginning next week the new logos will be implemented and the colors changed. :) Here is a sneak peak. There will be some additional changes to layout such as; -incorporating the top ad within the header area. -moving the links for member options and renderosity information to the top sidebar in a drop down menu. -log in and out will be moved to the top header -a sponsor link will be added to the sidebar under features. -forums will be in drop down menus to shorten the sidebar. We will be hard coding our color changes and therefore the personalized color option will no longer be available. We know this affects approximately 7% of our members and hopes that this is not too inconvenient. We will also be pulling areas together for better and easier navigation. Those areas will be titled "Community" and appear in the sidebar under Member options. If a member is interested in the Poser Community of Renderosity, then they will select the Poser link in the Community drop down menu and this will highlight all the areas within Renderosity that are Poser. Anything happening with Poser within the Renderosity community will be updated and communicated within this area. This is just an example...there will be many more of these areas to choose from. These changes should take place early next week. thanks

Looks sleek. I love that new logo! Can't wait.

I like it, looks very good so far. Well done to all involved.

I notice the background is changing from black to a light colour. Will that change also affect the galleries and the store?

Honestly, I don't like it. I prefer the black background. The fact that I can't change it bothers me. I never changed the settings from default because I prefered the dark settings. I feel it makes my images look better on the page. My personal web site has a black background for the same reason. I like the new logo, I can deal with the dropdown menus (though I do not prefer them), I may even tolerate the bland menu background, but the grey main background is hard on the eyes. I feel it destracts from the art on the site and I basically just don't care for it. The fact that now I am forced to view the site with this scheme truely is upsetting. I would much prefer to have the option to set my own colors back to the black background with white text. Maybe its because I was weaned on DOS. Magick Michael AKA zhounder

Most on-line galleries do use a black background, precisely because other colours do make the art harder to look at. I also am concerned by the idea that gallery images will be displayed against a non-black background. I think that would be a very bad idea.

I like the lighter background. White lettering on black vibrates and is tiring to read. Art in galleries is not shown on black walls, but rather against white walls. Why don't we see what it really looks like before deciding we don't like it.

Art in brick and mortar galleries isn't displayed using a cathode ray tube, so the colour of the walls in a brick and mortar gallery has nothing to do with the question. As for waiting to see what it looks like, I've already seen other places try it. It looked terrible there and it won't be any different here.

Let me clarify my statements. I am not saying that the desigened format be rejected, I am saying that I want the option to change it. I personally have avoided using light or colored backgrounds on my personal gallery site as I feel thy distract from my art. Though some may prefer the lighter background I and many others do not. I would just like the option to adjust Renderosity to what I feel comfortable with. To me, black text on a white background is tiring to read. Again I am not saying change the designed layout, I am saying let me retain my options to change it. Magick Michael

ack a white bg on the galleries? ohh no. Have we gotten a confirmation on that or is the white bg just on the front page?

aaaaargh no ...!! please, please not a white background.. at least give us two color options to choose from: one color set with white bg, and another with black ..? a black bg has been one of the best features of R'osity that I love so much :(

it does show the pics to best effect specially if youhave a lighting effect in it. the black bg that is

oh man- I love the new logo- but that light background has got to go. I too kept the default colors. My gallery will look like total crap on a light BG. A dark (black) BG is better for showing imgages on a CRT. Please- don't get me wrong- I have no problem with a site upgrade and change- but 'light bites, black is back' Actually - light tends to wash out some image colors- I tried everthing on my site and it just didn't look as 'classic' as basic black or dark dark blue. sorry, don't take this as a critisum of a site rebuild- but of one small thing. Thanks geo

i like the black backround that other color would kill my eyes

White bg, not good, even a midrange variation of the warm gray would be better than white, especially for the galleries. White or very light grey will darken vibrant colored artwork and make it hard to see, on other works it'll wash them out. C'mon, please don't make the bg white...Please?

Quick and dirty mid tone...

You have "Logout" up there on top, how about putting "Login" there as well?

Please consider keeping the gallery's background black. It gives the best presentation border/other area with art on a CRT. Change for change's sake??

I'd also like to say that I really prefer the black background too. I've designed my homepage here on Renderosity around the black background, but I'm more concerned about getting eyestrain and how it affects how many images look. I hope that if the background must be changed, that we can at least choose between light and dark backgrounds like Fatale says. Anyway, just my thoughts as always. :) Take care. SnowS

pleaaaaaaaaaaassseeeeee keep it blaaaaaaaaaaccccccckkkkkkk

omg........that is ugly

I don't much care for the white background either. Please consider a black/dark option. The white looks more sterile and the empty space is much more noticable.

I too prefer the black background. A white background has much the same effect as staring at a light bulb. I've always used the default colors because to me they are easier to read. I would ask that we have the option to retain the black background.

the white background does look horrible - seems to me an excellent way to LOSE patrons/clients that way The mid tone adjustment done above in this thread by zhann looks worse though...sorry Black is definitely the best I also don't like the background colour to the site - that icky grey/purple-ish stuff. It looks like the colour my plasticine used to go when I had mixed all the separate colours together - when I was a kid of course... :+P - anyway...it's yuck (technical term there as you can see)

I agree that black is much better. I changed mine to white thinking it would be better, but it wasn't, and am changing it back, along with considering making that same change to my site when I get a chance. Black backgrounds really help the colors to shine. Please either don't change it (or allow us to pick our colors like we do now). ShadowWind

I agree about the black...the rest of it looks really nice!

If you guys are making it white to try make it match the new brown logo thing, here's a suggestion: put in a thin white border/line to separate the brown menu and black background, that way, it highlights both colors? We want black! (I think the reason why so many of us use the current default colors is because it's good)

I like the logo and the drop down boxes but the colours are really yucky IMO. Have a look at any average 5-second-whip-up-php-site and you will see the exact same yucky colours. It just look unprofessional to me. I too am one of those who have kept the default look, BECOURSE IT WAS THE BEST, colour wise. Most of my promo images are made with a dark background in mind. I have onlugh of black-text-on-white when I'm forced into excell and the likes. The thing I like about Rostiy is that it makes my eyes relax with that soothing DARK background. Yeah maybe it's a lefover DOS syndrome, but... White text on a black background have worked for computers for 20 years + G there MUST be a reason for that... (Anybody ever tried reversing the colours in DOS? Now THAT was ugly)

btw isn't that brownish colour VEEEERY close to the one RDNA uses?!

RDNA is actually a true grey...I prefer black also, midtone was just a thought, however, the suggestion of a whitish (or the text color) border between the actual logo colors and black would definitely work.

I'm not too fond of the background colour either, but I DO think it's time this place tries something lighter instead of always having the same, grim black background.

I think black background is more appropriate.

YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kate (who gets the feeling she's gonna be spending a lot less time here after the changes take effect. Gawd, that makes my eyes hurt)

Gah - white! leaving instantly! poo! horror, ARTmageddon, the end of all things!!!!!! Just kidding. I like it. My only suggestion is that the gallery images are bordered by a thin black line (as at http://www.epilogue.net - I'm sure this had some influence anyway, no? ;) ). I think the thumbs will stand out more than they do against black. Black is old and it's amateurish, good riddance to black! ;)

I suppose it's too late in the year for this to be some sort of very un-funny April Fool's Joke???

I just feel spoiled!! awesome changes!!!

LMAO@Tempest okay, my two cents on the matter are: keep a DARK background to the site. it's not a matter of what we're used to, it's simply a matter of how the site looks like. frankly, i can't speak for anyone here but myself, but it's hard on the eyes. it makes it look cheap like there's no tomorrow. really, caca isn't exactly my prime choice for a site's color scheme... instead of that try dark gray or something. Mihnea Dumitru draculaz

Stick with Black! Other colors "pull" the eyes color sense off of "true". If there must be a change make it to 50% grey. But my vote goes to allowing personal preferences.

{We will be hard coding our color changes and therefore the personalized color option will no longer be available.} WHY??? What is the reason to take away this feature that people have come to depend on? People are complaining about the color scheme already and the site hasn't even gone live. You say it affects "7%" of the people here. Well, if Renderosity has over 100,000 members, than you're affecting over 7,000 people... some of which may become very vocal. Can you stand to handle over 7,000 complaints? Once you have given people the ability to use their own color scheme, you can NEVER, EVER take it away. Some people prefer a black background, some people prefer white. If you force people to use one color scheme, you make HALF the people ANGRY at you. If you allow people to choose their own colors, EVERYONE will be HAPPY with you. Your choice. How many people will quit or leave because the new color scheme makes the site hard to read, or in their opinion, "unusable"? Can you afford to have people leave in mass numbers because YOU forced a color scheme on people? Again, your choice.

Well JohnRender, 93% of the ppl kept the default colors because they work. There not so brite as to wash out the images or hurt the eyes or burn in the screens. If we've learned anything about the new management of this site is "This is what we are going to do, get use to it" I can understand the reasoning of the businessmen part- make it light so the banners stand out more. But in the long run it will be another fieasco like the free stuff approvial process. Or banning compeating mercahnt site members. I am here as an (wanta be) artist- if my stuff looks bad, I may finally just port everything over to someplace like 3dcommune or Renderotica. Change for change sake is bad. Black or Dark Dark blue background and maby a dark purple or dark flat red or 2 shades of blue would still match asteticly the new banner but keep the professional look. You'd think with thousands of artist here management would use that tremendous resource thats available. They should have the webs number one best looking site around. Imagine if management had to make each and every magazine cover themselfs. ewwwwwww!

Looks nice, but I prefer black as a background for the images.

But if you do look at the best looking art sites around (digitalart, epilogue, GFXartist) most have light backgrounds and none (that I know of) allow for colour changes - that's just retro stuff to make up for lacklustre design. As for light background straining the eye - Microsoft Word anybody? Let's face it, much as I like the site functionality at the moment, the design is very dated. Improvements have been suggested and I think that they look great. OK, not as good as some sites, but I prefer a fast load rather than flash graphics. Other people disagree, which is fine, but all this bitching and griping and threats to leave? Rendo is THE most spoiled community on the web, that's for sure! :) But please, whatever happens, don't have a poll! Look what happened to the last one... Actually, what DID happen to the last one? Don't think we've forgotten about it.

I really have decent difficulties with a light background. For example i cannot read a text on a white bg on the screen. It hurts my eyes. Furthermore i think that images (and its colours for sure) seems to appear more brilliant and clear on a dark bg (on my website all images are on a dark background) ... When i fall upon a website which is too bright i tend to go away very quickly - automatically and without thinking about. So it would be great to keep at least the possibility for everybody to choose...

I dont care for the colors either. Black background for me is preferable. Also, the option to be able to change the colors!! Please dont take that away from us :(

WHAT A GREAT WAY TO LIMIT ARTISTIC IDEAS HERE!!! Whatever one may think of the design, the fact is, that darker images will be out of the question in the future. Forget playing with lighting. Nightscenes...? Forget it! Why? Because you cant see the image! Hell, i will have to delete about 80 % of my gallery. Who the hell came up with this idea??? Any idiot with a sence of colors, know that white for a graphic gallery sucks! Guess its time to find a new gallery!

settle down chief :) again, I understand that bondware is a CMS and you can't exactly have EVERYTHING working or looking as you'd like it to be, but please, at least show some artsy fartsy talent (like you did in the choosing of the logo -vanilla instead of chocolate, anyone?), and make it dark gray instead of light shit. Thank you! MD

Please, keep the background black, at least in the gallery pages. White will be horrible. S.

We are watching the thread very carefully and so far it seems like most people dislike the light background. We are looking at different options. I don't have any more information than that right now, but I don't want anyone to think that their opinions are being ignored. Thanks, Cres

Did the powers that be ever stop to consider that the custom color option was only chosen by 7% of the participants because 93% LIKE black as the background? "SO now we'll change to white AND disallow the option to personalize!!" Right side navigation too....ahhhh yes...I tried that 10 years ago...still doesn't fly really.

Well, I used the ugly default black background because people started getting cute and forced light colored fonts that weren't visible on a light screen. Light fonts on black backgrounds (especially teeny tiny fonts) are terribly eye straining and ultimately unreadable. I'm just amazed how theoretically creative people would be so adverse to trying something new. It is really illuminating. Depressing, but illuminating. I still think it's nice to have a change and I am sure there will be other changes before we're done and some you won't like and some I won't like, and it just isn't very important one way or the other. It's just too bad we can't see what it looks like before we start whining about how put upon we are. The fact is that a black background does not make a medoicre graphic look any better, and a light background does not detract from a masterful rendering...ask any art gallery director and they would probably say the same. As for the reflection from a light background. Be real. That's why you have adjustments on your monitor. It is the controls on your monitor and the light in your room that is the problem...not a light background.

I think the new logo is nice, but not the light background. I have all my stuff set to a medium-dark gray. I really wish there had been a selection to keep everything as it was when we were voting. Even though I do like the new logo set, IMO, there weren't any logos as good as the current one.