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Assuming the comment refers to site design changes - Members continually request improvements, hard to do that without changes. It's a bit of a trade-off in member customizability, but I've found giving such design changes a week or so for acclimatization permits a more objective judgment. Certainly hasn't made the site unusable, and still the best for-free membership site/community I've come across. Site seems a bit slower overall, but I don't doubt that's from hundreds of members tweaking their display preferences. Cheers!
Bottom line is that I have to agree with Melanie and Pizzaz, lots of people are starting to complain. Hare's a big management case study for the admins - why change the color of cola religiously consumed by 176,000 members? Dialyn, do you like eating puke-pink or gangarene-green noodles? Stylish aren't they? Whbos, have you ever attended a professional web-design course? You haven't have you? Experts like Laura Lemay constantly stress that people have limited attention spans, humans aren't going to explore each item on each pull down menus. Bottom line - experts shun pulldowns unless absolutely necessary. Humans scan for points of interest - and personally I'd rather not call the present design 'cleaner' Leather-Guy, please define 'useable', Renderosity could turn everything white and set all text at #f0f0f0 and the site would still be errr... 'useable'?
"Leather-Guy, please define 'usable', Renderosity could turn everything white and set all text at #f0f0f0 and the site would still be errr... 'usable'?" Usable to me means I can find everything I look for. Can't think of any definition more relevant to my needs. I've already adjusted the primary text and background colors twice until I'm comfortable with them for now. Some color scheme has to be the default. black-on-white seems to have motivated a lot of members to explore other options. Bit of a shock to many, but change is only change. Personally I prefer a dark green text on a yellow-beige background for my screen settings and the lighting in my office. Not to everybody's taste. Cost me all of 5 minutes and a couple of screen-refreshes to do it. Professional web-design aesthetics are one thing. Most seem to follow what they feel to be trendy and cool. Average end-users are what really determines real design appeal. I've lost track of how many "professionally designed" web pages I've closed in disgust over the mindless "trendy over all" and "because I CAN!" mentality. A dozen or two members here seem to feel strongly about the changes. Overwhelming majority seem to be dealing with it, or giving it a while to sink in. I'm inclined to do the same, except I'm saying so. I'm just glad my preference of link-column-on-the-right is still available. If THAT had changed I might have squawked myself. Not meaning to be contentious, opposing views expected and encouraged. Cheers!
Even choosing coordinating colors doesn't help... this is much too contrasty. I can tweak part of the screen, but do nothing to affect your text and link colors, so they either glare or disappear entirely. :grrrr: Worse... why did you hide the Forums under a stupid drop-down menu? Not only do we have to click to open it (after we find the buzzard), we must scroll as well because it is TOO SHORT! Having something become too short over time is one thing, but starting out that way is very bad. Ergonomically, this is a terrible idea. Click-scroll, click-scroll, click-oh-pfooey! Artists are already endangering tendons, we don't need anything adding to their burden. Meanwhile, your store departments are all individually displayed. THAT stuff could all go under a drop-down menu. And the top area is very, very cluttered and disorganized. This is not an improvement. This is a mess. Carolly
I don't like it either....colors or drop downs. When I first started working with websites a few years ago, I thought all that dropdown stuff was neat and that changing the look of a site was a good idea, but not any more. Continuity is what people want and expect, especially in a site like Renderosity. The people who come here regularly view it like their home. They knew where stuff was and what to expect when they got here.....it was comforting and "comfortable". Frankly, there's enough crappin' change in the world without creating any more unnecessarily. I think of it this way: How would you feel if you went to work one day....came home and discovered that someone had rearranged your house....painted the walls a different color, moved all your favorite paintings and replaced your favorite overstuffed,comfortable chair with some "new fangled gadget" that required you to pull a lever before you could sit down! With the exception of those of you who would love to have someone repaint your walls, I doubt anyone would be very pleased. Well....it's sort of the same thing. This is "home" and damn it.....someone changed the wallpaper and hung up "mousewheel illiterate" dropdown menus while I was at work!!! I'll survive....but I won't enjoy it as much! :)
drop down menus are extremely inconvenient. I'd prefer an expando box with the option to leave it expanded like before. All that clicking and scrolling takes time. Hiding the forums in drop down boxes, three no less, requires several more mouse movements and hand movements. I realize all that clicking and whatnot impresses some, but its a time waster for me.
And what is that oscilloscope thingie? It says Marketplace. In what world does a rack-mounted HP Signal Generator represent the door of a store?
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It sort of looks like the calculator I use to add up all the money I spend here! :) I feel sort of bad for the poor person who sweated blood to design the graphics....he/she must feel a bit "tweaked". I don't have any problems with the graphics....just think they need to work on the rest of color scheme....and loose the drop downs.
Just read back to galactron22's post on the "coke analogy": " HEY! what about that new formula they tried? it sucked so bad they went back to the old one and made a bundle...." Galactron22! Just think how much Coke would have made if they had stayed with the original formula in the first place! Change is not always good.....don't mess with a good thing. Coke learned that the hard way when they switched to the new formula and ended up loosing their market lead to Pepsi.
I like the new design. Kind of. It's o.k. for the forums to have a light background. Comfortable to read, practical and so. But I can't adjust myself to the gallery images on off white. In my opinion the images are better presented on a dark dark (if not black) background. Colors on black are brighter than on white. I think even the fancy dark brownish grey (an elegant color btw) of the frames would enhance the gallery.
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galactron hit it on the head: {it sucked so bad they went back to the old one and made a bundle, so "Change is good". Like a new car, or painting your house. } Coming soon: "Classic Renderosity". That's right: the old look that you love is back! Thanks for your patience during this time, but we wanted to see how people would like the change. The members have spoken and we prouldly return you to "Classic Renderosity". Which begs the question: why change it in the first place? In Coke's case, it went down in history as a major marketing move. People gobbled up the "old" Coke and then gobbled up the "classic" (read: same as before) Coke. So, Coke sold tons of the old stuff and tons of the "new, old" stuff. Will Renderosity do the same to get more attention?
"In what world does a rack-mounted HP Signal Generator represent the door of a store? " LOL - Look close it's an ATM. I some people like options but designing to accomodate the lack of functionality in a product that has a microscopic share of the market doesn't strike me as good, especially when it burdens users of the greatest innovation in input devices since the mouse - the mouse wheel. BTW, the browser wars are over - I heard Bush say it.
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Argh! I went away for a day and someone trashed my house, painted the walls and moved the furniture. Well, it's not the end of the world. I can deal with it. It'll just take me a while to remember where everything was and put it all back into place again. Not to mention repainting the walls. Now.... where can I find a large lock and set of bolts to make sure the burglars don't get back in..... mac
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if so, you got rooked.