According to this bit from CL - We are currently producing Poser 5 for the Mac OS X platform. It is scheduled to go GM, (Gold Master), June 2003 and then released to manufacturing after that. It will be full-featured and will contain among other aspects, dynamic cloth and strand based hair, photo-based facial modeling and the innovative FireFly Renderer which enables smoothing of facets at render time, displacement mapping, 3D motion blur and depth of field. We will be announcing details on system requirements and pricing in the coming months. My uneducated guess would be August at the earliest or maby show up at the fall Macworld

There is no fall Macworld Expo. Now there's only the one held in San Francisco every second week of January. There used to be one held in July in New York, but now that's a Creative Pro conference. Besides, CL is probably now so cash strapped that they won't be able to attend it anyway.

Something tells me I will have to buy a new Mac to run it. From what I hear P5 requires one powerfull system. I have a P4 2.5 but I much prefer my Mac G4 for 3D and Graphics.

coming soon is what you tell your wife when your drunk and having sex and you hear, don't worry, i'll be coming soon,, meanwhile the wife waits for the big moment. but each time she will always hear, its coming soon, and it will be a great. Most Mac users are fed up with CL, and really don't give a good god damn about P5 anymore and are happy with there P4. so i think its best to stop throwing us Mac Dogs tiny bits to chew on. and get us the product ( like you have promised 2,3,and 4, times) or just shut up about the whole damn thing. i do fine with the P4 & PPP on my mac. CL won't satnd for curious labs for long, but constant lairs will popp into Mac users heads,, and maybe even a few window users too.

I'll probably get P5 for my mac, but the thing is only if it will import scenes into Vue D'esprit. Love Esther

Poser 5 dont work on OS 9.2.2, is need purchase OS X , and if your apps to dont work fine on OS X you need purchase this apps too ... all because poser 5 dont work on OS 9.2.2 too, hmm

that's okay for me thank goodness. I've got OSX and hardly use OS9 except in classic mode for poser and some of my older software. So I just need poser 5 to import smoothly into Vue with all the textures and stuff automatically done for me like in P4 and then I'll be happy ... er I think. why don't you get OS X? It's really stable and good to work with. Love Esther PS despite what curious labs says on its site, poser 4 works fine in classic mode running in OS X.

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i think the second coming of christ will get here first before the CL P5 version for the Mac will get here, besides, why should we Mac users upgrade our systems for something that is nothing but tid bit bull shit:?. sort of like watching a egg to hatch to see what kind of bird your going to get. and when it hatches, either it will surive or it will die. i think our time is valuable, too vauable to wait on a bird who can't even lay a proper egg to use.

{It will be full-featured and will contain among other aspects, dynamic cloth and strand based hair, photo-based facial modeling and the innovative FireFly Renderer which enables smoothing of facets at render time, displacement mapping, 3D motion blur and depth of field.} Keep in mind that this is what CL claimed that P5 for Windows would do. It is still debatable what "full-featured" really means... we think is means "P4 with bells & whistles that may or may not work on your computer", but judge for yourself. Maybe P5 will work better on a Mac since there's only 1 OS (OS X), but I have the feeling that the same core problems will be there- poor memory management, odd library management, no support for importing/ exporting to Lightwave or Vue, and so on. And the features listed for the FireFly renderer are the same things that Lightwave and Vue have been doing for how-many-years??

Isn't the new Vue version-- mentioned yesterday-- designed to import Poser 5-- I thought it was-- both forms, Mac and PC. That actually might be a good sign that CL is getting their act together over this. I'm not exactly being kind. Why should Mac users not suffer as we PC Poser 5 users have-- just don't Pay Full Price!!@ Emily

Yes the 4.2 update announced yesterday, for Vue will import Poser5 files and Mover 4.2 poser5 animations. June is the month for Poser5 Mac. I do know that the makers of Pixels (a mac only 3d software) have announced a partnership and are set to release a plugin for Pixels that integrates with Poser5. They have Poser5 now and this indicates that we shall see it soon. I only hope that they ship it on a Windows/Mac hybrid CD like every other previous version so that if it really sucks bad on Mac I can resort to running it on Windows... -Paul

It's nice to know that there's at least one gullible early adopter who will pay to beta-test it for the rest of us. Maybe we should chip in and send him a box of candy.

I've been happily using Poser 5 since my pre-order arrived, and (once they fixed that left forearm bug) my only problem is having to fire up the !@#$%&! PC instead of using my Mac. So I'm getting the Mac version as soon as it's available, and will be glad to post how it compares with PCP5 and MacP4ProPack for me - Elisa/gryffnn

elisa, I would be cery interested in your impressions on the Mac version vs. the PC version. What Type of PC and mac do you have? regards, -Paul

What's Poser? LOL!!!! Ok, really. I doubt they beta tested this alleged Mac version. But for the low, low price of too much money you can become one of those special few. There is just no way in the world I would ever pay money for that product.

Don't knock it till you try it ;) Not having used a mac in over 15yrs I wonder do all macs have the same features/internals or do they come in 1000 different flavours like PC?

There is basically 3 lines of desktops, 2 lines of notebooks. The desktops all have G4 cpu's and the powermac desktops (tower case) have AGP, DDR RAM, and most other modern technology. sadly the macs have been lagging, speed wise behind the PC for some things. That should change very soon when Apple announces new hardware based on a new CPU... Check out Apples site for details on the current macs.

I presume thats me getting the box of candy, done in Carrara was it? :-) As far as Im concerned OSX was in public beta for years.

Paul, Right now P5 is running on my 400MHz Windows 98 laptop. My 400MHz Mac G3 is still running OS9, but I'm getting a new G4 soon (waiting to see if there will be new desktops announced later this month that might push down prices). Between Mimic 2, P5, the i-apps and DVD creation, it's time for me to move to OSX. My husband gets the G3, so I'll have the safety net of my old OS9 applications and configuration. Still, it's always a bother to change OSs...

Elisa, Thanks for the info. How does P5 run on your PC? Is it usable at that speed? Just curious. Everything I have read about P5 suggests it runs slow even on faster PC's. I too am waiting for new hardware to be released. I want the biggest bang for my buck, I have a Dual G4 450 now and the current fastest dual 1.42 is fast but I want faster! ;-) -Paul