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Subject: "people" in Bryce and a small(?) request


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 1:50 AM · edited Wed, 20 November 2024 at 8:32 AM

Hail and well met :)
I've been looking at the Bryce galleries and I was wondering how you get people in Bryce pics without having Poser. I have done some nice pics but they really need people in them for them to come alive. I'm a Bryce "newbie" but I'm open to suggestions.

Also does anyone know where I can get a pink flamingo model for bryce? I need one but I've been unable to find a free model of one. Can anyone help me on either or both of these subjects?
Thanks in advance, Herne


antevark ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 1:59 AM

They do have poser. Or, they're using pictures on 2D planes. You could try modeling a person out of metaballs, but that would take loads of practice and a lot more work than neccesary.


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 2:18 AM

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I just did my first 2d plane (not with people though) and I was quite happy with the results (not too happy with the jpeg rendering though. Next time I'll save it as a BMP first then convert it to a jpeg. I've attached the file with this note.) I won't be getting poser very soon as right now I'm "between jobs" hopefully after I'm again gainfully employed I'll be able to. when you use people from say photographs what colour do you need the background to be (do I paste the person against white, black or???) sorry for all the questions and thanks a million for your help :)


croowe ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 2:24 AM

Attached Link: http://www.cadtutor.net/ibank/raster/picob/picob.html

Here is a tutorial for your people request using 2D images, they even have a couple of TIF's available for download to do the tut. Sorry cant help you with the flamingo.


antevark ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 2:26 AM

Not bad at all for one of your firsts. The horses and the background, right?

I'm fairly sure that the Poser demo can export, so you might want to give it a shot, hopefully someone can give you the link for Grouper.

I havn't worked very much with 2D planes, so I can't give you any advice, but I think that Claymor would be your best bet, because, believe it or not, this man is a 2D plane.


antevark ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 2:30 AM

Attached Link: http://www.forwarddesign.com/3dobjects.htm

And there's a flamingo here, you may have to download Pixels 3D to open it and export it to Bryce.


Rochr ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 2:32 AM

You can also browse through 3Dcafe. Think there are some human models there. Better then nothing. To use a photo, youll need to do a transparency map, where the character is white, and the rest black. No need to apologize for asking, thats what this forum is here for. :)

Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com


Rochr ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 2:33 AM

Attached Link: http://www.3dcafe.com

And heres the URL to 3Dcafe...

Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 7:39 AM

Thank you all very much! :) This is so great. I've gone to all the urls ya'll have posted here and I'll post what I've accomplished. Thanks again. :) :) :)


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 7:47 AM

By the way, Antevark that picture is fantastic! Question, where did the tudor style doll house come from?


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 8:00 AM

I downloaded the Trial version of Pixel3d and unfortunately I couldn't save the pink flamingo :( I cant afford to buy the programme right now but I did get the flamingo Pxl. So, next question is: Is there any way I can get Bryce to open it so I can work on it? Thanks again


electroglyph ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 10:47 AM

Attached Link: http://www.3dtotal.com/

Sometimes I use terrains for people. Look at rj100s parrot in the next post. It's an excellent example of using terrains for characters. 3dtotal has some excellent characters in 3ds that import into Bryce. Go to the freestuff button on the top menubar. click models. The character page shows up automatically. I'd post a direct link but it's an active server page. You have to click on the links from the front page to get there. They have a lady elf with a bow, pirate, etc. Good Stuff!


Erlik ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 1:27 PM

Well, for people, you can browse through the free Poser stuff here at Renderosity. You won't be able to pose them, but just import the .obj files, to get the feel for that.

Then, Poser 3 was free with ... Computer Arts, IIRC. Try finding that.

Flamingo, can't help you. Found one on cadmonkey.com, but got 404 on the link.

For those who already have Poser, there's tons of birds by Lyne's Creations at vistainternetproducts.com. There's even a flamingo with 24 ready made poses for $17:

http://www.vistainternetproducts.com/flamingo.htm

-- erlik


Aldaron ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 1:54 PM

For people that aren't going to be close to the camera but in the background and not need much detail you can use terrains, lattices and metaballs plus primitives to get general shapes and all that should work. The Bryce content CD (or is it already in the object presets?) has a wizard made of terrains.


Ang25 ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 3:54 PM

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Just want to say thanks to electroglyph for the 3dtotal link where I got the body from. I haven't done a lot with this yet. I was just fooling around. The biggest problem with this mesh is that its only 2 pieces. Can't position the arms or legs. So I worked around that. I copied the body and tilted it. Also had to smooth the body. Not sure if I'll pursue this for the challenge or a gallery image but I was happy with the preliminary outcome. Oh and I had to do a little postwork to hide the thighs that were sticking up in front of her knees. :-)


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 10:01 PM

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Okay, so I download from the poser free stuff. but how do I know which are people and what are poses? or are they one and the same? Ang25 what is the url for that tutorial? I did get a 3ds figure and I cant pose him but here is what I managed to do :)


Ang25 ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 10:27 PM

herne: I don't know what tutorial you're asking about,I used the link up above that electroglyph provided for 3dtotal and I got the 3ds model from there. I have since found out that I can boolean a negative primative with this model and cut her in pieces. Then I can piece the pieces back together, yeah its a lot of work, but I don't have poser and from what I gather getting a decent poser pose is a lot of work too. Now if I can just figure out how to put clothes on her, lol. Right now I'm doing a nudist beach scene. Lots of tweaking still to do on it. I'm hoping to post a wip tomorrow for crits and comments here in the forum. Anyhow, you'll learn a lot just reading this forum too. Its a great place to be. Ang


markk ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 10:32 PM

Hi Herne, I have a pink flamingo for you in cob format which will import into bryce. leave your details and I will send it you if you want it. Mark


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 11:19 PM

Hey mark why not post it here? (I'm not really into spreading my personal info around, sorry)


antevark ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 11:22 PM

Attached Link: http://home.swfla.rr.com/blacktreebluesky/Rhino_downloads.html

I remembered this, too. A while back Glas made some posable dummies in Rhino(tired of having to use Poser to make correct proportions). Catlin kindly converted them to Bryce format for me, and I set them up for posing in Bryce. Glas is now hosting them, you might want to try them out. They don't look very realistic, but they come in handy.


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 11:22 PM

To Mark: Or you can post it to alt.binaries.3d.bryce (I'm known as TheBadger there)


herne ( ) posted Sat, 12 July 2003 at 11:37 PM

Thank you Antevark :) thank you thank you thank you :)


SevenOfEleven ( ) posted Mon, 14 July 2003 at 11:05 AM

Could model people using metaballs and primitives if you are keeping the camera that far out. At that distance you will not see too many details on the people. Pants - square and two cylinders. Shirt - rectangle. Shoes - rectange. Dress - rectangle or cone. Hat - flattened sphere or flattened sphere and cylinder If you can't get poser or you can't find the right models, think about making your own.


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